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Writer at @WIRED. Author of NYT bestseller 'Chaos Monkeys'. Formerly @Facebook, @YCombinator, @GoldmanSachs. Yes, I live on a boat and in a yurt. 🇺🇸🇪🇸

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    1. Antonio García Martínez‏Verified account @antoniogm Oct 26

      Impromptu theology lecture with my Sikh Uber driver who started peppering me with questions about the differences between Christian sects. He couldn't understand why a monotheistic religion would opt for a thousand variations on a theme. "But God is One", he'd interject.

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    2. Antonio García Martínez‏Verified account @antoniogm Oct 26

      This started when I noticed a cross hanging from the rearview, but the turban and 'kara' indicated he was Sikh. Apparently, he kept the cross from a previous owner, which started the religion talk. "What's the difference between Baptists and the Catholics?", and off we went.

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      Antonio García Martínez‏Verified account @antoniogm Oct 26

      It's interesting to try and convey the nuances of a vast topic (that you yourself only vaguely grasp now) to someone with just enough knowledge to get the basics, but still viewing things from outside. This business of Jesus being divine was a subject of lots of follow-ups.

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        1. Antonio García Martínez‏Verified account @antoniogm Oct 26

          His final question, as we pulled over: "So what are you then? Catholic or Jewish?" (I'd explained the issue of the Jewish kids, and thoughts of conversion.) "Remember the thing about Jesus' divinity? Well, you've kind of got to give that up along with the bacon."

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        2. Bybon, son of Phola  🇵🇱 🇱🇹‏ @BybonSonPhola Oct 26
          Replying to @antoniogm

          Learning about the debates (and wars) of the early church regarding the nature of the Trinity really showed me how little I understand about the religion I was raised with

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        3. Antonio García Martínez‏Verified account @antoniogm Oct 26
          Replying to @BybonSonPhola

          Right. It's just incredible that people would engage in wars and massacres over some subtle verbiage around Jesus' place in the Trinity.

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        2. Sebastián De Toma‏ @sebadetoma Oct 26
          Replying to @antoniogm

          I got recently a book that tries to summarize all the stories behind "the historic Jesus" by analyzing all the different gospels and sources from that time. It was written by Paul Verhoeven (yes, the dutch filmaker) and it's quite interesting. It's a huge topic to grasp easily.

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        3. Antonio García Martínez‏Verified account @antoniogm Oct 26
          Replying to @sebadetoma

          I randomly read about Verhoeven's book on the historical Jesus recently. Evidently, it's taken quite seriously.

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        4. Sebastián De Toma‏ @sebadetoma Oct 26
          Replying to @antoniogm

          When you think about all the sects that's been around from the very start of catholism, it all becomes very nuts. It's a miracle (?) that we're still alive.

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        2. Burnt-Out Case‏ @BurntOutCase Oct 26
          Replying to @antoniogm

          Sikhs in North America are very hung up on being a monotheistic faith. Not sure why but maybe they believe it is a path for their religion getting more respect in the West.

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        3. Antonio García Martínez‏Verified account @antoniogm Oct 26
          Replying to @BurntOutCase

          I visited a Gurudwara in Delhi, and they kind of gave me the proselytizing hard sell. They brought up monotheism a lot too. I think it might be their way of demystifying the religion, and making it relatable to Westerners. I should probably study it more.

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        4. Burnt-Out Case‏ @BurntOutCase Oct 26
          Replying to @antoniogm

          Yes I definitely think they try to use it in Western contexts to stress differences from those freakish Hindus with their crazy beliefs.

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        5. Burnt-Out Case‏ @BurntOutCase Oct 26
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          Technically they are more monotheistic than your average Hindu but Sikh monotheism is definitely not like Semitic monotheism. For example instead of rejecting Hindu Gods there are many references to them in Guru Granth Sahib.

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        6. Burnt-Out Case‏ @BurntOutCase Oct 26
          Replying to @BurntOutCase @antoniogm

          Sikh theologians who want to push the monotheism angle will say that they were considered admirable human beings but not divine. I don't know enough to be sure either way.

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        7. Burnt-Out Case‏ @BurntOutCase Oct 26
          Replying to @BurntOutCase @antoniogm

          I married an Indian American Sikh who I met here. We never had a Temple wedding, just a court wedding and then a Gurudwara wedding at her parent's request. I tried very hard to come with warm, fuzzy feeling for the faith but honestly the strident fundamentalists was a turnoff.

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        8. Burnt-Out Case‏ @BurntOutCase Oct 26
          Replying to @BurntOutCase @antoniogm

          It also didn't help that when we were visiting a Gurudwara in Delhi during an India trip I took my two daughters to a Gurdwara and in their excitement at feeding the fish in the pond there their head covering slipped exposing their hair.

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        9. Burnt-Out Case‏ @BurntOutCase Oct 26
          Replying to @BurntOutCase @antoniogm

          A security guard came running and started abusing us using swear words. I told my wife that it reminded me of a scene from the Taliban in Afghanistan and it ended my interest in the Sikh religion and going to Gurdwaras.

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