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    ANTIREZ‏ @antirez Aug 22

    Please note that the Redis license remains BSD. A few people misunderstood the @RedisLabs blog post. It applies only to modules developed at Redis Labs such as RediSearch. Modules developed by myself will be AGPL (that is, Disque). Redis core BSD as usually.

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      2. Pierre Chapuis‏ @pchapuis Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @RedisLabs

        Thanks for the clarification on Disque! I think AGPL (with a commercial dual-licensing option) is great for this kind of software ("you can provide hosting but you must contribute changes back").

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      3. ANTIREZ‏ @antirez Aug 22
        Replying to @pchapuis @RedisLabs

        AGPL is the only way to stay inside the OSS realm. But I believe it's not going to completely fix the fundamental problem of OSS in the cloud era, that is, people producing the software are not always the same that will make most money selling the service.

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      2. Matteo Joliveau‏ @matteojoliveau Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @RedisLabs

        What's your personal thought on this commons clause? Do you think it could genuinely help reduce the alleged misuse of OSS in the cloud world or will it be just a stone throw in a lake, with little to no real effect? Genuinely asking because I'm curious of your opinion

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      3. ANTIREZ‏ @antirez Aug 22
        Replying to @matteojoliveau @RedisLabs

        Hello Matteo, I wrote a Twitter thread about that 1h ago or alike.

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      4. Matteo Joliveau‏ @matteojoliveau Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @RedisLabs

        Oh wow I missed that. Thx

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      2. Simon_Lucy‏ @Simon_Lucy Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @jerenkrantz @RedisLabs

        I can't read the page because there's a non compliant privacy notice ahead of it, which is another reason I wouldn't use Redis anyway. This kind of licence manipulation just insults the intelligence of those that mind and is of no concern to users. Which is a shame.

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      3. ANTIREZ‏ @antirez Aug 22
        Replying to @Simon_Lucy @jerenkrantz @RedisLabs

        To use Redis you have to go just to GitHub and http://Redis.io  btw.

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      4. Simon_Lucy‏ @Simon_Lucy Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @jerenkrantz @RedisLabs

        The reason for not using it as a product or platform is the confusion of licences, most especially Affero GPL.

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      2. Peter Cooper‏ @peterc Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @RedisLabs

        👍 I did get a sense of "did anyone actually read the page?" when seeing the criticism. I think this is a good move if it helps keep Redis Labs investing in the project.

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      3. Dj Walker-Morgan‏ @Codepope Aug 22
        Replying to @peterc @antirez @RedisLabs

        I read the page and tell you something, they could have saved a lot of bother by calling out the modules by name.

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      4. Peter Cooper‏ @peterc Aug 22
        Replying to @Codepope @antirez @RedisLabs

        Agreed, they could have been clearer for sure.

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      5. John K‏ @JohnK___ Aug 22
        Replying to @peterc @Codepope and

        Agreed about clarity. I expect they were myopic and should have used external help to craft the initial announcement. Kind of like when the developer solely writes the developer documentation.

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      1. Jan Lingemann‏ @janlingemann Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @RedisLabs

        The real problem here is that some "enterprise" features will be needed in redis in the future. @RedisLabs will be to slow to adapt this by releasing them as oss. A fork will happen and you know the rest of the story, look at @MySQL and @mariadb

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      2. Matt Stine‏ @mstine Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @RedisLabs

        so it would be helpful to know which managed service offerings would be considered "out of compliance" with the new policies.

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      1. Peter Bowyer‏ @peterbowyer Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @RedisLabs

        Bravo for the change. I agree current OSS licensing doesn't work in the cloud era. I hope it spurs on other organisations to come up with licenses that work.

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      2. Asim Aslam‏ @chuhnk Aug 22
        Replying to @antirez @RedisLabs

        The blog post is very vague. It's worded more like "let's stick it to the cloud giants" as opposed to saying "redis modules will be under a new license".

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      3. Nilesh Trivedi‏ @nileshtrivedi Aug 22
        Replying to @chuhnk @antirez @RedisLabs

        Which blog post is this? Don't see any mention of "license" on this page:https://redislabs.com/resources/blog/ 

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      4. Asim Aslam‏ @chuhnk Aug 22
        Replying to @nileshtrivedi @antirez @RedisLabs

        https://redislabs.com/community/commons-clause/ …

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