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Neoreactionary. Techno-traditionalist. Breeder.

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    1. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay @anomalyuk

      He lets people quizzically infer what he means, then either says "maybe!" or "no not that, silly"

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    2. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay

      Well I'm either going to have to find out what he actually said or agree with you he was very vague, so it's much easier to agree with you. But that doesn't even begin to imply he "shrugged off his whole thesis on the necessity of hierarchy, responsibility and self-betterment".

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    3. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @anomalyuk

      because beyond the task of making oneself a responsible and desirable partner, he said both in the profile and in his response blog that society has a role to play in managing the men who fail to find partners. Okay, sure! But all the latter blog does is retreat to a passive tonepic.twitter.com/7t0Gg61tNn

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    4. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay @anomalyuk

      Now, I wrote that reply to you before his response blog. If he could be clearer about how society should "assist" men who can't find girlfriends, maybe I'd need to reassess what I said. But it did seem to me to contradict his message of personal responsibility.

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    5. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay

      Is that left quote a summary, or indirect quotation? Either way, society working to make sure "those men" get married doesn't seem to rule out putting social pressure on the men to be more responsible.

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    6. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @anomalyuk

      It's an indirect quote, which is repeated by what he wrote for himself in the 2nd one. The 2nd quote seems to say the necessity of placating their frustration supersedes addressing their "incompetence"; but I'm not convinced he's saying anything worth parsing with great attention

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    7. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay @anomalyuk

      To take another example, this quote from the article either says nothing or something pernicious. The cure for women rejecting men is for them to get married. Wow, cool, thanks. Huh?pic.twitter.com/GfhdN7C3yY

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    8. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay

      Well either he's suggesting that all kids should get married while still at school, or he's claiming that in a society where an overwhelming majority of people marry, kids would not become "angry with God" because they weren't getting laid in their teens.

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    9. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @anomalyuk @bobsymay

      So he's either demanding something I have literally never heard suggested by anyone ever, or saying relations and prospects should be more like they were in every European society in recorded history up to the 1970s. Yup, anyone's guess what he meant.

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    10. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @anomalyuk

      If we grant that the notion "the solution to being single is to get married" has no undercurrent of coercion, it's as banal as reciting arithmetic.

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      anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay

      Today, the notion "the solution to being sexless is to get married" is quite radical. Marriage is presented as something you maybe do once your fun years of casual sex are over, not something you should be thinking about in your teens.

      8:30 AM - 23 May 2018
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        2. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
          Replying to @anomalyuk

          We should be clear that self identifying "incels" are a very marginal group and cover a much broader age range than teens. the real gnawing sense of failure doesn't set in until the 20s and 30s, incel resentment is of missing out on casual fun and being expected to settle down.

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        3. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
          Replying to @bobsymay

          You've forced me to read the article, damn you. OK, he was talking about a 25-year-old, so this isn't just kids' frustrations. Peterson then claimed, "half the men fail" to get in relationships. If that's true, then the prospects for, say, 10% are completely hopeless.

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        4. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
          Replying to @anomalyuk @bobsymay

          (I doubt it's true personally, but that's the argument he made) Conversely, if marriage is normal (as in most of European history), say 80% of people are marrying, then even if you're failing now, you can believe you have a reasonable chance.

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        5. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
          Replying to @anomalyuk @bobsymay

          This isn't even original, it's fairly widely thought and discussed. Again, it's the difference between "X must be given sex, now" and "X should have reasonable hope that sexual success is attainable for him". One is ludicrous and impossible, other was a norm within living memory.

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