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Neoreactionary. Techno-traditionalist. Breeder.

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    1. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay @anomalyuk

      He lets people quizzically infer what he means, then either says "maybe!" or "no not that, silly"

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    2. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay

      Well I'm either going to have to find out what he actually said or agree with you he was very vague, so it's much easier to agree with you. But that doesn't even begin to imply he "shrugged off his whole thesis on the necessity of hierarchy, responsibility and self-betterment".

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    3. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @anomalyuk

      because beyond the task of making oneself a responsible and desirable partner, he said both in the profile and in his response blog that society has a role to play in managing the men who fail to find partners. Okay, sure! But all the latter blog does is retreat to a passive tonepic.twitter.com/7t0Gg61tNn

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    4. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay @anomalyuk

      Now, I wrote that reply to you before his response blog. If he could be clearer about how society should "assist" men who can't find girlfriends, maybe I'd need to reassess what I said. But it did seem to me to contradict his message of personal responsibility.

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    5. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay

      Is that left quote a summary, or indirect quotation? Either way, society working to make sure "those men" get married doesn't seem to rule out putting social pressure on the men to be more responsible.

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    6. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @anomalyuk

      It's an indirect quote, which is repeated by what he wrote for himself in the 2nd one. The 2nd quote seems to say the necessity of placating their frustration supersedes addressing their "incompetence"; but I'm not convinced he's saying anything worth parsing with great attention

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    7. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay @anomalyuk

      To take another example, this quote from the article either says nothing or something pernicious. The cure for women rejecting men is for them to get married. Wow, cool, thanks. Huh?pic.twitter.com/GfhdN7C3yY

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    8. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @bobsymay

      Well either he's suggesting that all kids should get married while still at school, or he's claiming that in a society where an overwhelming majority of people marry, kids would not become "angry with God" because they weren't getting laid in their teens.

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    9. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @anomalyuk @bobsymay

      So he's either demanding something I have literally never heard suggested by anyone ever, or saying relations and prospects should be more like they were in every European society in recorded history up to the 1970s. Yup, anyone's guess what he meant.

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    10. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @anomalyuk @bobsymay

      And I'm not saying he's right! The point you seem to be missing is that the desperation of teenage "incels" is caused not just by their own situation, but what they see (erroneously, I believe) as their hopeless prospects.

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      anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
      Replying to @anomalyuk @bobsymay

      Telling a misfit youth that he should be building his life towards becoming a husband and father is rather different from telling him if he isn't getting sex at 17 he's a failure. But it does depend on marriage and family as a norm.

      8:28 AM - 23 May 2018
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        2. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
          Replying to @anomalyuk

          as you noted how things were "up to the 70s", one could say that norm changed as women became more financially and legally empowered to leave undesirable and dangerous marriages. And that's where the subtext of Peterson's innocent shrugging starts rising to the surface.

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        3. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
          Replying to @bobsymay

          Yes! Now you're making reasonable criticism. I think he thinks that a moral consensus against casual sex would be enough, but I suspect (like you?) that economic and legal equality for women makes that impossible. That's the real argument here.

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        4. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 23
          Replying to @anomalyuk @bobsymay

          But see how far we are from the original disagreement. "Dating advice for men... you deserve sex for existing".

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        5. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
          Replying to @anomalyuk

          But that is still something incels do earnestly claim, and insofar as it relates to the Peterson profile, he was flirting with their grievances being valid, before smugly clarifying that actually he wasn't saying anything.

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        6. Bobsy May‏ @bobsymay May 23
          Replying to @bobsymay @anomalyuk

          In any case, I am sleeping now. Thanks for the chat.

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