Project: someone needs to collect "Jim on Leftist Ideological Spirals" as a book. With a better title.
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Admittedly that is not now the widely understood definition, but it surely applies to Moldbug and Jim, and arguably to Nick Land too.
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(The arguable bit being that Nick's conclusions are generally much less traditionalist, except in a few basics)
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That's the definition I initially started from and still prefer.
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A lot of the 2nd generation guys are Christian not materialist, and it doesn't make sense today to exclude them by definition.
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I don't quite understand how they reconcile it all, but it's not worth my time or theirs to argue about it.
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