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Neoreactionary. Techno-traditionalist. Breeder.

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    1. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness May 29
      Replying to @anomalyuk

      Don't let free decentralized media get at the voters -- that's "fake news". Don't let free decentralized media get at jurors -- that "prejudices a trial". -- This entire mind-control apparatus is a pre-Internet relic that's crumbling into pieces on all fronts.

      1 reply 5 retweets 32 likes
    2. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 29
      Replying to @Outsideness

      That's an entirely false equivalence. Fake news is the complaint that outsiders do the media's job. Jury tampering is the complaint that outsiders do what nobody is allowed to do.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness May 29
      Replying to @anomalyuk

      The equivalence is based on the common (and unsustainable) assumption that there is such a thing as an untampered population. It's some kind of Garden of Eden fantasy.

      2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    4. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 29
      Replying to @Outsideness

      So your whole position here is just an objection to the concept of a jury? I'm sorry, I didn't understand that. You can have judge trials, jury trials or mob trials. I would have said the third was the worst of the three.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness May 29
      Replying to @anomalyuk

      Jury trials are probably as doomed as democracy, and for the same reasons. Their demographic precondition has been obliterated. ...

      4 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
    6. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness May 29
      Replying to @Outsideness @anomalyuk

      ... Some David Friedman-type private arbitration solution fits impending realities better.

      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    7. Cult‏ @cultofunreason May 30
      Replying to @Outsideness @anomalyuk

      criminal or civil? the latter is already trending in that direction, but as to the former, i disagree.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Cult‏ @cultofunreason May 30
      Replying to @anomalyuk @Outsideness

      What reforms would you like to see? At least in the U.S., it's hard to see what's "unlawful" about charging someone with a thousand crimes and persuading them to plea-bargain.

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      anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 30
      Replying to @cultofunreason @Outsideness

      It has to be faster and cheaper by about an order of magnitude. You should be able to try someone for a crime the day after you arrest them. The system is so loaded down with safeguards it can't operate.

      10:28 PM - 30 May 2018
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        2. Cult‏ @cultofunreason May 31
          Replying to @anomalyuk @Outsideness

          okay, but what does this look like in practice?

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        3. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 31
          Replying to @cultofunreason @Outsideness

          Probably a lot more like the courts before the 1960s. A lot more discretion for judges, a lot less mandatory procedures that have to be followed. My mother's job (back in the 1980s) was pre-sentencing social enquiry reports.

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        4. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk May 31
          Replying to @anomalyuk @cultofunreason @Outsideness

          She'd visit the defendant's home and write up a description of the effects that a sentence would have, and suggest "community sentences" that the judge could apply. I'm not saying that's entirely pointless, but something has to give, and it's stuff like that.

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        5. 𐐑𐑄𐐰𐑀𐑌𐐪𐑉 𐐡𐐰𐐼𐑀𐐰𐑊𐑁‏ @pthagnar May 31
          Replying to @anomalyuk @cultofunreason @Outsideness

          those are indeed giving. very often now the probation officer has to give a verbal Pre-Sentence Report (as they are called now) when the beaks hear the case, and even the written up ones (usually for more, uh, cerebral crimes such as child abuse) are very concise

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        2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness May 30
          Replying to @anomalyuk @cultofunreason

          Applying the police apparatus designed for social media speech violations to actual criminality would be a good bait-and-switch. ...

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness May 30
          Replying to @Outsideness @anomalyuk @cultofunreason

          ... Arguably, that's what China's social credit system is doing.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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