"The facts": Thousands of rapes, true. The press did report it, from 2011, but even then the state did nothing because they said it was just the "right-wing" press stirring up the race issue. All these cases are open to public scrutiny exactly like every other UK trial.
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All of them are reported when they finish exactly like every other newsworthy UK trial http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-41608602 …http://www.itv.com/news/2017-08-09/eighteen-convicted-in-newcastle-sex-grooming-network/ …
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There may still be gangs being played down and covered up, and they need to be exposed. Blatantly false claims that the cases that have actually produced arrests and prosecutions are being covered up distracts from that important fact.
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@xctlot here because he's OK and I follow him), I wouldn't care. People are wrong all the time. But everyone can see you're wrong and therefore you are discrediting yourself and the cause you argue for.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @anomalyuk @StraightMerkDem
The important part here is the moral claim, not the legal details of specifically why he is being punished.
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Everyone pretty much agrees he "broke the law" and could have avoided going to jail; the point of contention is whether the law makes the UK a hellhole police state.
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Replying to @xctlot @StraightMerkDem
If the law meant that the state could hold secret trials and prevent them being reported, that would be a good argument. But it doesn't.
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(Actually, there is a different law, regarding reporting of cases involving children, that does allow the state to cover up what it does, and that is horrific. But that doesn't affect this case)
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Replying to @anomalyuk @xctlot
Nothing is secret, everything can be reported, by journalists or by ordinary citizens, with just this restriction on publication during the trial itself, which is _universally_ and strictly applied, despite the piece you quoted saying that it isn't. This is general knowledge.
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Replying to @anomalyuk @xctlot
Maybe there's a better way of managing jury trials. Maybe they should be able to gather any information they want, maybe they should be kept in hotel rooms without phones for the duration, I don't know or much care.
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But claiming that a long-standing detail of court procedure, widely accepted and universally applied, is a POLICE STATE HELLHOLE completely detracts from any worthwhile criticism of the horrendous situation that this trial is an example of.
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