@anildash that's not fair. plenty of companies A/B test any number of scenarios to find upper/lower boundaries. ad load for example.
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@hunterwalk deliberate software crashes? Come on now. - View other replies
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@anildash it's like testing latency, no? We all know that no latency is best but *zero* latency has lots of costs, I'm sure *most* large.. - View other replies
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@anildash ..internet companies have control groups at different points that *slow down* in addition to *speed up* their services? -
@hunterwalk sure, I know the ways different performance vectors are used for testing. This is different, in obvious ways. -
@anildash i think you need to give engineers LOTS of freedom in % testing to get data for different hypotheses. - View other replies
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@hunterwalk I think that would be valid if all the engineers on the team have extensive ethics training. These don’t.
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To be fair, I think Facebook has gotten a little more respectful towards users in the years since that test, but… well. Facts is facts.
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“We had to make more frustrating & confusing to talk to your loved ones because one of our managers needed more data.”
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@anildash A depressing fact: even learning of this very deception still won't make users quit. There is no "choice". - View other replies
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@hondanhon@anildash Basically no amount of abuse is going to make me attempt to convince my uncles to stop using Facebook, so eff it.
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@anildash I'm hesitant. The rationale sounds bogus. The execution would have triggered coverage if it had a valuable n.
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@anildash isn't this the other way around: this is what people think about facebook? :)@FrankPasquale -
@ilparone@anildash FB engaging in human subjects experimentation without consent or even notice http://www.newcriticals.com/facebooks-model-users/print … ==> disrespect - View other replies
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@FrankPasquale horrifying, especially when considering all the ethical reviews and constraints academics endure.
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