2/ "...unless we find the intermediate host where the virus originated from, the animal host..." -@ScottGottliebMD
It took decades for us to figure out that HIV is a hybrid of SIVs naturally infecting the red-capped mangabey and the greater spot-nosed monkey.
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3/ "or unless we have something that definitively demonstrates that this came out of a lab — a whistleblower, access to information that hadn't been available previously..." -
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4/ "...this matters because a lot of the discussion around how to prevent the next pandemic is focused on zoonotic sources and trying to improve handling of foods and wet markets and trying to look at all the risks of human encroaching on natural habitats..." -
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5/ We also need to look at: "...how do we get better security and better practices around BSL3 & BSL4 labs. BSL4 labs are springing up all over the world. We don't really have good international governance of those labs... their practices...research ..." -
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6/ "If you think there's a possibility this came out of a lab, I think part of the policy response ought to be getting better governance around high-risk research and high-risk laboratories, and that discussion's not happening." -
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"As far as the lab leak theory, there's two narratives here, and one is interfering with the other." -@ScottGottliebMD1 reply 0 retweets 12 likesShow this thread -
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"One narrative is that there's a direct connection between NIH and US researchers and this strain, which was engineered deliberately by Chinese researchers. I think that narrative is untrue." -@ScottGottliebMD1 reply 0 retweets 19 likesShow this thread -
9/ "That political narrative is conflicting with a more plausible narrative which is that this is a strain that was found in nature that was brought to the lab for further evaluation..." -
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10/ "...and in the course of evaluating it, and maybe doing research on how to develop countermeasures against it that were well-intentioned, it became more humanized, more human-adapted..." -
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Replying to @celinegounder @ScottGottliebMD
This is a good thread and I agree with Dr. Gottlieb's considerate view, with the exception of this. We know that when growing SARS-CoV-2 in cell culture, it rapidly becomes cell culture-adapted & loses some features (such as the FCS) important for human infection & disease.
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There is quite a lot of data on SARS-CoV-2 and how it behaves in the lab vs. in people. If cell culture results in the loss of key virulence factors, the idea that well-intentioned research went awry becomes less plausible from a virology perspective.
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The problem is that the first question, is it possible to escape from a lab, is one thing. But the question of pre-adaptation is a question of molecular virology and i don’t understand how an intelligent non-virologist even forms an opinion on it.
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Very interesting.
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