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    Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

    Dr. Angela Rasmussen Retweeted David Leonhardt

    Seeing this get lots of traction. Vaccine hesitancy/skepticism is a problem, but I don't agree with the pearl-clutching about "messaging," as if vaccine hesitancy is something new caused by dour, pessimist scientists being honest about uncertainty.https://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1362767520764203011 …

    Dr. Angela Rasmussen added,

    David LeonhardtVerified account @DLeonhardt
    For weeks, the public messages about vaccines have been more negative than the facts warrant. Now we are seeing the cost: A large percentage of Americans wouldn't take a vaccine if offered one. 🧵...
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      2. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Vaccine hesitancy has been a problem since long before COVID-19, and has pretty much impacted every single vaccine, even ones that have been around for decades and have been used to safely immunize millions or even billions of people (MMR).

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      3. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen Retweeted David Leonhardt

        So let's go through this. Yes, it's true we need to do better at persuading front-line HCW, especially LTC workers, and folks in the military. NBA players? Sure, why not.https://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1362768083899793413?s=20 …

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen added,

        David LeonhardtVerified account @DLeonhardt
        - About 1/3 of military troops who’ve been offered vaccine shots have declined. - When shots became available to Ohio nursing-home workers, 60% said no. - Among frontline workers in SoCal, the share was 40-50%. - N.B.A. stars are wary of doing public-services ads. (2/x)
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      4. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen Retweeted David Leonhardt

        And let's talk about these polls saying that "nearly half" of Americans will refuse a vaccine if offered one "immediately". 1. "Nearly half" requires some creative interpretation of poll data because 2. "Immediately" is kind of important here.https://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1362768252766683138?s=20 …

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen added,

        David LeonhardtVerified account @DLeonhardt
        Nationwide, nearly half of Americans would refuse a shot if offered one immediately, polls suggest. Vaccination skepticism is even higher among Black and Hispanic people, white people without a college degree, registered Republicans and lower-income households. (3/x)
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      5. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        In reality, vaccine demand is increasing. The number of people who want a vaccine "immediately" has increased substantially, from 34% to 41% (47% if you count people already vaccinated). That's "nearly half" of people who want a vaccine immediately.https://khn.org/news/article/poll-nearly-half-of-american-adults-now-want-the-covid-vaccine-asap/ …

        2 replies 19 retweets 129 likes
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      6. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Furthermore, if you consider the number of people who want a vaccine, just not right away, that's 31%. That means the total number of people who are considering vaccination >70%. Only 20% of people don't want it or won't get it at all, down from 24% in December, per this poll.

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      7. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen Retweeted David Leonhardt

        But media surveys, even ones conducted by reputable outlets like @KHNews, don't always get to the bottom of reasons why. Leonhardt thinks it's because we're all being way too negative about the vaccines.https://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1362768397445042184?s=20 …

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen added,

        David LeonhardtVerified account @DLeonhardt
        Why so much skepticism? Think about all of the negative things you’ve heard about the vaccines: - They aren’t 100% effective. - Vaccinated people may be contagious. - The virus variants may make everything worse. - Don’t change your behavior even if you get a shot. (4/x)
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      8. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Incidentally, in his piece lambasting the overwhelming negativity of scientists, Leonhardt cites this same poll and frames it as "nearly half of Americans would refuse." Talk about negativity! Another way to describe those results is to say that well OVER half would accept.pic.twitter.com/PMhl42DdMb

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      9. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen Retweeted David Leonhardt

        He quotes two very respected colleagues (I agree we should be careful with messaging) and acknowledges that there's uncertainty...but blames honest discussions of the emerging science as "widespread negative messaging" for all the uncertainty wholesale.https://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1362768829097664519?s=20 …

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen added,

        David LeonhardtVerified account @DLeonhardt
        I get that the negative messages often have a basis in truth. There are still uncertainties about the vaccines. And they won’t wipe this coronavirus off the face of the earth anytime soon. But the negativity is fundamentally misleading – and causing real damage. (6/x)
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      10. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        So is that true? Are scientists, in being nuanced and factually correct in explaining the benefits and limitations of vaccines, actually INCREASING vaccine hesitancy? Here's a study that investigated this in France:https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(21)00012-8/fulltext …

        1 reply 8 retweets 62 likes
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      11. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        This study showed that hesitancy/refusal depends on a lot of things: -Efficacy -Safety -Where a vaccine is manufactured -Age and gender -Education -Medical history -Past vaccination record -Belief that COVID-19 causes serious problems Not "negative messaging."pic.twitter.com/hi1sQ58LpN

        3 replies 22 retweets 81 likes
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      12. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Surely negative messaging could impact this, but the point is that this study shows what's been known about vaccine skepticism/hesitancy for years: It's complicated, there are many reasons people may be reluctant to get a vaccine. It's not just gloomy scientists being truthful.

        1 reply 11 retweets 71 likes
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      13. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen Retweeted David Leonhardt

        So enter Leonhardt's latest piece, in which he distills all the complexities of vaccine skepticism into a single facile problem with a single facile cause: how the media, scientists, and physicians communicate uncertaintyhttps://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1362769649746731014?s=20 …

        Dr. Angela Rasmussen added,

        David LeonhardtVerified account @DLeonhardt
        The bottom line: The widespread negative public messaging about the vaccines is fundamentally misleading, and it's damaging to public health. (fin) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/19/briefing/ted-cruz-texas-water-iran-nuclear.html?action=click&module=Briefings&pgtype=Homepage …
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      14. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Yet, he doesn't actually present any data other than the @KHNews poll and some assorted quotes about anecdotal observations from among their own friends and family.pic.twitter.com/PFjZrkcgcA

        1 reply 6 retweets 50 likes
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      15. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        So let me jump in with my own anecdotes here. We do vaccine skeptics a disservice by dismissing their concerns as being the result of "bad messaging." We need to take vaccine reluctance/hesitancy seriously, and answer people's questions about them honestly, whatever they may be.

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      16. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        For some people, that may be "will we have to wear masks forever" and "what's the point of getting vaccinated if we don't know about the impact on transmission". For others it may be "are vaccines safe?" or "how can we know they are safe if they were developed so quickly?"

        2 replies 9 retweets 67 likes
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      17. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        For others it may be "why should I feel confident getting a vaccine when medical research has historically exploited my community and we continue to suffer from racial or socioeconomic disparities?" And yes, for some it may be "are there microchips in there?"

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      18. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Those of us engaged in communicating with the public have a responsibility to answer these questions seriously and honestly. If I'm asked about the process, it's patronizing for me to dismiss that & reiterate that the vaccines work instead of addressing those concerns.

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      19. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        It's also patronizing and will further erode trust to assume that the concerned public will only hear negative things about the vaccines when we discuss caveats and uncertainties and this will reduce demand.

        2 replies 2 retweets 67 likes
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      20. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Again, the data cited by Leonhardt as evidence for how negative messaging is contributing to vaccine hesitancy suggests demand for vaccines is *increasing*.https://khn.org/news/article/poll-nearly-half-of-american-adults-now-want-the-covid-vaccine-asap/ …

        3 replies 6 retweets 55 likes
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      21. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        People want to know the whole story and they deserve to hear all of it: what we know to be true, what evidence we have, and what we still need to learn. People WILL call bullshit if you shovel it at them, and this will only deepen distrust in science and public health.

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      22. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        Scolding about "negative messaging" also lets anti-vaxxers off the hook & gives them another angle to exploit. It is anti-vaccine disinformation that nurtured vaccine hesitancy in the public sphere long before COVID, & "blame the negative scientists" does nothing to combat that.

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      23. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        So yes: -Vaccines work -They are safe and highly efficacious -We don't know everything about the impact on transmission, but it's likely they will have an effect -Vaccines save lives and will end the pandemic long-term -I will get one ASAP -We don't know everything and that's ok

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      24. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen Feb 19

        And also yes: -It's okay to be honest with the public about what we don't know -We should level with the public and respect them enough to not overstate what we know -Vaccine hesitancy is not new, and it's more complicated than just "don't be such a downer"

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