I've been happy with one-press cloze for several months now. I wonder what was different in our experiences.
One possibility: cards live directly in roam and so are always in an editable mode, so clean-up friction - like adding missing context - isn't too high.
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Another: the cards you create require more synthesis / a higher level of abstraction that cloze extraction allows for
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Yeah, that's possible. I don't think the long-term problems became particularly glaring until 6-12 months, so you may not be feeling it yet.
The central problem for me with verbatim clozes is that I find myself not caring about the wall of text I'm being confronted with.
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The tension is: use a short source range—which later feels contextless and less emotionally meaningful; or include more context, yielding a burdensome prompt not very focused on what I actually want to reinforce.
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The verbatim phrasing is very rarely what I actually want to reinforce. Sometimes it works out! But the majority of the time, not.
I find verbatim clozes have much worse issues than hand-authored clozes, but problems with the latter too:
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Silver lining: informal experiments suggest that verbatim clozes are much better as an input model for NLP systems generating focused Q/A style prompts, vs. just highlighting some text.
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Also separately: visual clozes seem pretty reliably good! A lot more to anchor on, I think.
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That's interesting! The same block of text as an image from book/site/doc with a cloze over a key word or phrase, as opposed to that text as text in your SRS app?
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We saw a large lift at Hickory ~40% in recall (I think) when an image was added to the card.
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Neat stat.
My guess would be: image cards are comparatively rare, and _some_ of those gains are just from the image’s presence being a recall signal.
There is usually a lot more context in an image too, so more to index on all around.
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Yes, the key thing I'd be curious to know is change in recall on a follow-up test in which the associated image is *not* included.
Associating images is almost certainly valuable (elaborative encoding) but I see it as distinct from effects of image clozes.



