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Maybe someday automerge’s serialization format will be as durable and universal as SQLite’s, but in the meantime, it’s certainly not amenable to casual concurrent local access in some user script.
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Of course, SQLite leaves you to solve syncing. The typical approach is a write-only log of events (CRDT mutations or otherwise) which can be replayed across replicas. Snapshots of entity states are computed from queries across these events.
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That’s the approach Orbit takes: simple event structures (simpler than CRDTs, sacrificing some of their key guarantees to reduce complexity), with well-defined merge operations, in a SQLite db. Users can write scripts to insert their own events if they like.
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I’m still not satisfied with this. Reading/writing data yourself requires using Orbit’s libraries or a SQLite library and an understanding of the schema. I’d like to just expose the data as plaintext, but I’m not yet sure how to achieve that practically.
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Switching gears: another hard thing about implementing this type of data format is that web browsers demand their own implementation. kindly implemented an IDB-based Orbit backend. Excited about absurd-sql here:
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Orbit’s cloud server has its own (third, ugh) backend implementation, which it uses to offer APIs, aggregate analytics (for my research), and services like study reminder notifications.
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I see now why people don’t generally do this. It was a huge amount of work. I’m honestly pretty frustrated with myself for shaving this yak: too much time polishing my telescope, too little time looking at stars.
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Great report from the front lines—thanks for sharing! One observation that makes is that web browsers aren't a good fit for local-first. They're fundamentally thin clients with throwaway local caches. Maybe that's part of the mismatch for Orbit?
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The local-first approach is intended for document-creation programs. Writing tools, programming tools, photo/video editing, UI design, etc. Anki clearly fits into this category, but Orbit feels like it might have better affinity with the thin client model?
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