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Joe Groff
@jckarter
OpenDoc in particular, or the broader genre of publisher/subscriber frameworks? OLE was "successful" on Windows among the Office apps, but I don't think third parties wanted their apps to be relegated to "components" inside views controlled by the platform owner
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Guy English
@gte
SOM was the underlying model (if I recall). Shared by IBM and Apple. OS/2 bet heavily on SOM, the whole Workspace Manager relied on it, but the tide was turning hard for MS at the time. I agree about why Pub/Sub model failed. There was an “object” market at one point but meh.
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Arroz
@arroz
As a user at the time, I never really used it because 1) it crashed all the time (brining the whole Mac down with it because MacOS classic) and 2) The UX was not great. Imagine having a whole app UI shoved in a tiny rectangle inside another window’s app.
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Arroz
@arroz
I think that, in the OpenDoc case, the implementation was more responsible for the failure than the concept itself. Which is sad since it didn’t give time to really test the ideas behind the concept.
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Arroz
@arroz
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@andy_matuschak
@gte
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@jckarter
I was a kid at the time tinkering with stuff, I don’t remember much more than that. 😄 My only other recollection is very few apps supported being hosts and even less being publishers. Although that’s the 🐔/🥚 problem.
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Arroz
@arroz
Devs won’t spend resources supporting half-baked tech, and tech won’t improve because no one supports it.
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