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Wonder, blunder, salve, solve! Working on tools that expand what people can think and do. Past: led R&D @KhanAcademy; helped build iOS @Apple.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 1
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      Learning as-you-do-it is more efficient and effective than classrooms or textbook reading. Could academic subjects remodel themselves on meditation apps, @andy_matuschak asks? https://notes.andymatuschak.org/Guided_meditation_apps_bundle_instruction_with_daily_sessions …pic.twitter.com/ovCDRV5DbJ

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    2. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay May 1
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      Replying to @Meaningness @andy_matuschak

      This is probably easier for heavily procedural subjects, like math and meditation. Note that math instruction is already a lot like this, and doing exercises feels like "sitting down to do math".

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    3. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay May 1
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      That suggests to me that it's not the app format but the procedural nature of the domain. Sitting down to meditate or to do math is easier, and is straightforward to offer in app form. See also a million popular exercise apps. But how does one just sit down to do history?

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    4. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay May 1
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      Replying to @xuenay @Meaningness @andy_matuschak

      (I actually spent a bit of time thinking about that question, when doing my MSc thesis on educational games. It looked to me like gamification is easy and effective for math, where you can automatically generate questions and verify the answers.)

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      Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak May 1
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      Replying to @xuenay @Meaningness

      Interesting that you see gamification as easy! Do you have a theory as to why educational games have failed as a field? (or maybe you reject that premise?)

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        2. eris‏ @erin_nerung May 1
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          Replying to @andy_matuschak @xuenay @Meaningness

          my humble two cents as user/someone who learned english largely from videogames, is that educational games never took off because they still operate under a sort of classroom mindset and "work" by "making learning fun/interactive" rather than making learning incidental

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        3. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak May 1
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          Replying to @erin_nerung @xuenay @Meaningness

          Yes, I share that view.

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        2. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay May 1
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          Replying to @andy_matuschak @Meaningness

          I think gamification is pretty easy *for subjects like math*. And there seem to be lots of good math games out there - I watched a five-year old learn to solve algebraic equations while playing on a laptop. (I'm confused why there aren't more math games for higher maths, though.)

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        3. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay May 1
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          But as I suggested in the other tweets, math seems like an exception rather than the rule; other subjects largely don't have the kinds of properties that would make it easy. (the ones that feel like they might also have promise are math-like, such as physics)

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