Hi, @andy_matuschak. Have you done any thinking about explicit (or implicit) teaching of note taking strategies or knowledge work? See my notes in the thread ^^
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Yes. But I concluded that the underlying ideas are too nascent, and that I want to develop them much more before spending time spreading them. May run workshops/classes in the meantime, but the point will be to help me understand, not to teach.
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To put it another way: I’ll want to work on spreading a given computer-supported thinking idea once I feel it's clearly enabled important work on the margin. Before then, feels too navel-gaze-y / “lifehacker”-y. Better to focus on honing and testing the ideas themselves.
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I’m extremely concerned about falling into this trap:https://notes.andymatuschak.org/zUMFE66dxeweppDvgbNAb5hukXzXQu8ErVNv …
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Unrelated, but I’ve always been curious about these note taking system screenshots people share with massive walls of text. With so little curation or editing, isn’t it overwhelming to consume yourself later, let alone share with others?...
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...or is the purpose to externalize your thoughts, and then have a more coherent, linear mental narrative you can process/share later? In that case, what ongoing value to previous notes do these systems offer?
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I have extensive notes on my experiments here: https://notes.andymatuschak.org/z3SjnvsB5aR2ddsycyXofbYR7fCxo7RmKW2be … This isn’t an edited essay—the ideas aren’t developed enough—but feel free to browse.
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Replying to @andy_matuschak
I'll spend some time reading it. My comments came from an uncontextualized perspective given that I find it difficult to focus on reading long articles using a digital screen, and my subconscious bias against long articles being meandering and unfocused/unedited.
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I certainly agree with both those points! I write short, focused notes (typically < 200 words)—that’s part of the practice—but navigating will feel meandering. They’re not written to be easy for you to read; they’re what you get before I’ve written an essay, rather than nothing!
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Replying to @andy_matuschak @jtaby
Do you ever find you need to change or refactor a bunch of your notes when your beliefs on some topic changes? eg. if you change your "Evergreen notes" note based on significant updates to your beliefs about them, that could affect a bunch of other notes which reference it
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Yes, fairly frequently. That’s a sign of important progress!
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Replying to @andy_matuschak @jtaby
Interesting. Do you have a sense of whether this process will continue working once your notes span many years or decades? Like it could turn out that keeping your notes consistent across your beliefs could take so long that doing so actually impedes progress.
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