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Wonder, blunder, salve, solve! Working on tools that expand what people can think and do. Past: led R&D @KhanAcademy; helped build iOS @Apple.

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    1. Conor White-Sullivan‏ @Conaw Mar 9
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      Agree here too iPads arent computers iOS isn't an empoweding OS MercuryOS is a good conceptual framework for **something** related to (programmable attention)TM- @andy_matuschak

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    2. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak Mar 10
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      My broad sense is that the desired end-state is an inversion, a dual of the current structure: instead of apps-as-nodes, we have apps-as-edges. Roam and LiquidText are nouns/places; I think their ideal form is as verb. Roam/etc-as-OS is roughly what’s necessary for this, I think.

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    3. Weltschmerz Incarnate‏ @squidlord Mar 10
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      We've tinkered with "apps as service providers" (not in those terms, of course) before. Plan9 took it pretty far down into the Mach kernel, even. It has some useful bits but the multiplicity of desired ways to touch ANYTHING means things get unpredictable fast.

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    4. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak Mar 10
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      Indeed. I don’t know a workable model for this. It’s interesting to see TimBL try it again with Solid. The “no-code”/“Zapier-driven” trend is interesting to watch, too, since there’s a greater emphasis on end-user-usability. But I’m not optimistic here.

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    5. Weltschmerz Incarnate‏ @squidlord Mar 10
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      Maybe there's not a workable model -- at least while maintaining continuity with current workspaces and actual work getting done. The idea of externally-hooking pipes is probably the best possibility but dealing with API limitations will hurt them, always.

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    6. Weltschmerz Incarnate‏ @squidlord Mar 10
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      Sooner or later, it BECOMES code, even if it's dragging lines and connecting pipes with filters and transformers and not writing text.

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    7. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak Mar 10
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      Yes, and then it devolves to solving the end-user programming problem, which AFAICT we’ve not made much progress on in decades. The more interesting question may be how to move the 80/20 line, and I do think some of the no-code projects have made useful progress there.

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    8. Weltschmerz Incarnate‏ @squidlord Mar 10
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      Looking into things like Blender and other video compositing/FX systems that use box-and-pipe abstractions for building complex systems, or things like Blueprints in Unreal (game engine), there's been a _lot_ of that progress.

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    9. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak Mar 10
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      Yes, Blueprint is amazing. It’s telling that there are full-time employees who use it exclusively, all day, as their primary environment—but who cannot “code” in a traditional sense.

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    10. Weltschmerz Incarnate‏ @squidlord Mar 10
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      I'd say they code all day, every day, but I've never been of the "ascended priesthood" class of programmer. Programming is the detailed specification of intent to a machine; the symbols used are immaterial. Machinists "code" both digital and analog computers to produce pieces.

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      Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak Mar 10
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      I agree, of course, was using “code” ironically there.

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