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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      Perhaps my favourite typo is in this stone sculpture, greeting visitors to "Wordsmiths: the Writers[!] Cafe" at my alma mater, the University of Queensland. It's huge. I expect it cost tens of thousands of $. It's been there for decades. I smile every time I see it.pic.twitter.com/htdxULcnVu

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    2. Lisa Van Gemert‏ @gifted_guru Mar 3
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen

      This isn't a typo. It's a common grammatical construction. Sorry to take away any coolness...

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    3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 3
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      What's the construction? If "Writers" is an adjective it'd be fine, but it'd be an extremely non-standard use of "Writers". If "Cafe" is a verb it'd be fine, but again that's v. non-standard. If they're both nouns, as seems likely, then it's ownership, & an apostrophe is needed

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    4. Jason Crawford‏ @jasoncrawford Mar 3
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @gifted_guru

      Seems that “writers” as an adjective wouldn't be *that* non-standard? Paging @LanguageLog

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    5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 3
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      Replying to @jasoncrawford @gifted_guru @LanguageLog

      Can you find a credible dictionary with it listed as an adjective? Can you give an example usage that doesn't look like an error?

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    6. Noah Tye‏ @noahlt Mar 3
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @jasoncrawford and

      The Writers Brigade is, conceivably, a brigade composed of writers. So maybe the Writers Café is not a café belonging to writers, but a café somehow composed of writers — perhaps the place where you can go to find a writer for hire!

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    7. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 3
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      Replying to @noahlt @jasoncrawford and

      That seems reasonable, nice theory! I couldn't find a dictionary with this kind of usage, unfortunately, but something in this vein seems plausible. Of course, the parsimonious explanation for the sculpture is that someone goofed, and it's a five-figure $, 30+ year typo.

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      Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak Mar 3
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @noahlt and

      The thing I love most about this is... it’s fixable after the fact, right? like, you can just engrave the apostrophe now! I mean, the kerning would be too tight, but that’s better... time for some citizen chiseling??

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        2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 3
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          michael_nielsen Retweeted Max Krieger

          https://twitter.com/maxkriegers/status/1234908558757679105 …

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          Max Krieger @maxkriegers
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          I guess just the UK! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Omission … pic.twitter.com/Htp3nedfZP
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        3. John Manoochehri‏ @jmanooch Mar 3
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          John Manoochehri Retweeted John Manoochehri

          Yeah the construct is called apposition and it's not the same as adjectival usage. It's an implied oblique-case relationship which is not stated.https://twitter.com/jmanooch/status/1234766870382882816?s=19 …

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          John Manoochehri @jmanooch
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          You can easily get round this to calm your mind. Although the genitive apostrophe is missing, apposition is a formulation that collapss prepositional case quite flexibly. The All Blacks game The rational numbers field The writers café Sleep sound tonight!
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        2. Jason Crawford‏ @jasoncrawford Mar 3
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          Reminds me of *Eats, Shoots and Leaves*: “Why did the Apostrophe Protection Society not have a militant wing? Could I start one? Where do you get balaclavas?” https://books.google.com/books?id=e2ROR0qqFwwC&pg=PT19&lpg=PT19&dq=apostrophe+society+%22balaclavas%22&source=bl&ots=8HrtV5z0dV&sig=ACfU3U0uCq4YDf4qMimrDUgOWRgXLmljhg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwieg_D1kYDoAhU9ITQIHfvIBpYQ6AEwDXoECAsQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false …pic.twitter.com/5EHCmfgqMx

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        3. Jason Crawford‏ @jasoncrawford Mar 3
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          Replying to @jasoncrawford @andy_matuschak and

          Sadly, the Apostrophe Protection Society recently shut down:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/02/apostrophe-protection-society-john-richards-england/ …

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        1. Noah Tye‏ @noahlt Mar 6
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          Extremely relevant: https://twitter.com/samgavinla/status/1235995394716258309?s=21 …

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