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Wonder, blunder, salve, solve! Working on tools that expand what people can think and do. Past: led R&D @KhanAcademy; helped build iOS @Apple.

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    1. Alec Resnick‏ @aresnick Jan 29
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @andy_matuschak

      I think there are a lot of assumptions embedded in that. Happy to dig into them directly, but I’m curious about your thoughts on an analogy: Are you familiar with SICM? https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/gjs/6946/sicm-html/book.html …

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    2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Jan 29
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      Replying to @aresnick @andy_matuschak

      I'm a little familiar with it - I guess I've spent maybe ~10 hours with it.

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    3. Alec Resnick‏ @aresnick Jan 29
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @andy_matuschak

      I thought it might be a useful analogy insofar as it represents an approach, notation, and perspective which has seen very little uptake, but I think one would be hard pressed to describe it as without technical merit. It clearly *could* be the kernel of a tradition IMO.

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    4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Jan 29
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      It seemed to me like an extremely interesting prototype, and made me wish for a book written by, say, Feynman+Sussman, on the same subject.

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    5. Alec Resnick‏ @aresnick Jan 29
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @andy_matuschak

      I think that’s a lovely evaluation. To bring it back to Logo: I suspect (though now I am encouraged to actually go estimate this), that Logo’s development qua DG probably didn’t see as much directed R&D time as that text and framework.

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    6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Jan 29
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      Replying to @aresnick @andy_matuschak

      Something I tend to forget is that the framing of Logo in terms of DG is one Alan Kay makes, IIRC, much more than Papert. Which is rather unfair to Logo.

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    7. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Jan 30
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @aresnick @andy_matuschak

      (I've made this mistake before, I'm afraid. Apologies - it does rather mean my argument is against a straw man.)

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    8. Alec Resnick‏ @aresnick Jan 30
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @andy_matuschak

      But I think still an evocative and important straw man! Even if Papert didn’t erect it, plenty of others have— I’ll never begrudge someone pushing someone “in education” to demonstrate that there’s a there there 😋

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    9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Jan 30
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      Replying to @aresnick @andy_matuschak

      Thanks. I'm afraid I've got to head to bed. Nice chatting with you, Alec, and thanks for your patience.

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    10. Alec Resnick‏ @aresnick Jan 30
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @andy_matuschak

      Same! 🙏🏼

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      Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak Jan 30
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      What a wonderful and thoughtful provoking conversation to find in my notifications this morning. I’m grateful to you both!

      12:40 PM - 30 Jan 2020
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