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Wonder, blunder, salve, solve! Working on tools that expand what people can think and do. Past: led R&D @KhanAcademy; helped build iOS @Apple.

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    1. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak 2 Nov 2019
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      I had a fun conversation with @eriktorenberg about tools for thought, knowledge work, books, and so on. Listen in if you like!https://www.breaker.audio/venture-stories/e/52733086 …

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    2. Hibai Unzueta‏ @hanbzu 6 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @andy_matuschak @eriktorenberg

      When you say "zettelkasten like note systems have you do a linear search for connections, that gets exponentially more expensive as your note body grows", I think you actually search your brain for connections, not the whole body of notes.

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    3. Hibai Unzueta‏ @hanbzu 6 Nov 2019
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      I think what happens is your brain automatically filters by what's hot at that point in time. The good thing about the zettelkasten is, once you've reached that note you'll see others you had forgotten😊

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    4. Hibai Unzueta‏ @hanbzu 6 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @hanbzu @andy_matuschak @eriktorenberg

      And, as with @fortelabs's concept of "progressive summarisation", if you perceived some difficulty finding the note (that had sparkled in your brain in connection to the new addition), you'll alter the connections, edit or summarise so that's easier next time.

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    5. Hibai Unzueta‏ @hanbzu 6 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @hanbzu @andy_matuschak and

      In a way, in zettelkasten-like systems you're perpetually moving up (connecting, summarising) what's relevant, against a slow downwards pull caused by the weight of the whole body of notes ✨

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    6. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak 6 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @hanbzu @eriktorenberg @fortelabs

      The error correction mechanism you describe is definitely key! But I disagree with your point about search. One primary purpose of the Z is to have it “communicate” as an independent agent, surfacing ideas that weren’t top-of-mind through the process of search.

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    7. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak 6 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @andy_matuschak @hanbzu and

      In “Communicating with slip boxes” Luhmann describes how it’s important that the Z is like *another person*; many key properties tuned for surprise.

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    8. Hibai Unzueta‏ @hanbzu 6 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @andy_matuschak @eriktorenberg @fortelabs

      Exactly. But here’s how I understand it: A spark in your own mind tells you go search related card X. In the process of looking for it you’ll need to make at least a few jumps where you’ll find Y and Z. Which you hadn’t thought about! 😮 There’s the system talking to you.

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    9. Hibai Unzueta‏ @hanbzu 6 Nov 2019
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      Likewise, you can summat/rewire for the future you to have a reasonably fast experience next time you happen to be in that area of the zettelkasten. This could be equal to building a highway between A and E to avoid doing ABCDE each time. You’re effective reducing retrieval time.

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      Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak 6 Nov 2019
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      Ah, I see! Hm. In my experience, X (the first hop) often comes not from my brain but from the interface (“related notes”, recents, associations via tags, etc).

      10:07 PM - 6 Nov 2019
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        2. Hibai Unzueta‏ @hanbzu Feb 28
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          I'm curious if you see feasible roles of the tool in auto-suggesting new connections or if you're now leaning on "the tool has to make it easy for YOU to find them" (as in a fluid interface)https://notes.andymatuschak.org/Prefer_explicit_associations_to_inferred_associations …

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        3. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak Feb 28
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          Replying to @hanbzu @eriktorenberg @fortelabs

          I'm interested in both, though I'm not sure there's much difference in practice. I suspect that thoughtful implementations of peripheral vision will necessarily involve surfacing nodes which might make good connections.

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