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Wonder, blunder, salve, solve! Working on tools that expand what people can think and do. Past: led R&D @KhanAcademy; helped build iOS @Apple.

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    Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak 8 Oct 2018
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    Middle school represents quite a striking sinkhole for student engagement. Grade 5: 74% of students engaged; Grade 9: 40% of students engaged! http://news.gallup.com/reports/210995/6.aspx?utm_source=opinion&utm_medium=copy&utm_campaign=20170525 … What drives the steep drop? Introduction of homework? Puberty? Less play?pic.twitter.com/foY57SZ3kL

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      2. Derek Knox‏ @derekknox 15 Oct 2018
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        Is this unique to U.S. and Canadian students? The answer to that is likely insightful.

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      3. Andy Matuschak‏Verified account @andy_matuschak 15 Oct 2018
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        It's a great question. I don't know!

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      1. "Humans are Amazing"‏ @shancarter 8 Oct 2018
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        I distinctly remember in middle school becoming a lot more interested in learning because the topics were so much more interesting (algebra! chemistry!) but also becoming much more disenchanted with "school". I remember hating "school" but really loving select classes/teachers.

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      2. Scott Farrar‏ @farrarscott 8 Oct 2018
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        There's a switch from being taught by one generalist teacher to 4-7 specialist teachers around grades six and seven. The generalist has ~30 students while the specialists have ~150. Both student and teacher know each other less.

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      3. Scott Farrar‏ @farrarscott 8 Oct 2018
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        I'm not arguing against specialists (since they have plenty of benefits) nor am I claiming this is the only reason (your other guesses sound reasonable too) but I think this is a very "tactile" change from elementary school.

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      1. Ben‏ @bsansouci 8 Oct 2018
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        Hard to be good at school and be cool at the same time. Maybe impossible by definition :p

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      1. Ben Beattie-Hood‏ @BenBeattieHood 8 Oct 2018
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        From memory, it was the decreasing perceived relevance to real life. Life was increasingly relationships & understanding my role as a maturing adult; school more (eg) geography, maths, and being told. Feels like travel, community ed, autonomy ed would have been more engaging.

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      1. David S Pumpking‏ @DavidSPumpking 8 Oct 2018
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        This is actually pretty intuitive. If a 5th grader is 10 and a 9th grader is 14, thats 4 years. But we know that most students only stay engaged for ~14.5 months on average. (https://www.theknot.com/content/too-long-to-be-engaged …) Thats of course assuming the 40% is a subset of the 74% which might be a reach

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      1. Eileen Finney‏ @ETFinney 8 Oct 2018
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        Less play.

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        I think that’s about when I started to notice the other sex? :P

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