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    andreasdotorg‏ @andreasdotorg Mar 9

    andreasdotorg Retweeted Edward Snowden

    I had a job offering to develop exactly this about ten years ago. I rejected, someone else obviously didn't.https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/972110541408952320 …

    andreasdotorg added,

    Edward SnowdenVerified account @Snowden
    Huge: @Citizenlab catches ISPs invisibly redirecting download requests for popular programs, injecting them with government spyware. Unencrypted web traffic is now provably a critical, in-the-wild vulnerability. 20-30% of top internet sites affected. https://citizenlab.ca/2018/03/bad-traffic-sandvines-packetlogic-devices-deploy-government-spyware-turkey-syria/ …
    10:41 PM - 9 Mar 2018
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    • (have-YER! Candeira) Mark 🚀 Sanjeev Raghav BrendanEich Joe Bowser Tigersharke Mahdy 武士 yan Eike Reinel🇪🇺
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      2. Tigersharke‏ @Tigersharke Mar 9
        Replying to @andreasdotorg

        *One* solution is not to use popular programs. The best way to succeed at that is to also not use a 'popular' Operating System. Any OS where the user/owner is locked out of absolute control is not a good choice. #FOSS

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      3. andreasdotorg‏ @andreasdotorg Mar 9
        Replying to @Tigersharke

        No. Injection pretty much works on any arbitrary executable. You have to develop only once for every OS. Also, open source package managers are notoriously weak with their cryptographic infrastructure. Open source will not save your ass on this one.

        2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. Christian Vogel‏ @vogelchr Mar 10
        Replying to @andreasdotorg @Tigersharke

        I agree regarding shoddy checks and possibility of injection. But I see that on commercial/closed software nowadays almost any app implements their own update logic. And I'm pretty certain that most do even worse crypto/signing/checks than pacman/apt/emerge/…

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      5. andreasdotorg‏ @andreasdotorg Mar 10
        Replying to @vogelchr @Tigersharke

        How is that different from, say, npm?

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      6. Christian Vogel‏ @vogelchr Mar 10
        Replying to @andreasdotorg @Tigersharke

        Well, yes, I concur. That's a trainwreck. And I don't claim that open-source, in its current implemented form, is inherently better. But I believe (maybe erroneously) in commercial windows-software world it's currently *more* *prevalent* that everyone implements own updating.

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      2. Simon Zerafa‏ @SimonZerafa Mar 9
        Replying to @andreasdotorg @munin

        Is it modifying the download / installer in flight between the source and destination or wholesale replacing the download with an altered / modified one? 😯

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      3. andreasdotorg‏ @andreasdotorg Mar 9
        Replying to @SimonZerafa @munin

        Well, modifying the executable in flight is what I would have implemented there.

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      4. Simon Zerafa‏ @SimonZerafa Mar 10
        Replying to @andreasdotorg @munin

        With my evil hat on I would do the same. However it seems they are using 307 redirects instead, with a clear fingerprint. That looks suspicious or careless.

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      6. Simon Zerafa‏ @SimonZerafa Mar 10
        Replying to @munin @andreasdotorg

        I'm going for suspecious. Anyone inspecting traffic would see a very clear marker for tampering.

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      7. Nicolai Hähnle‏ @nhaehnle Mar 11
        Replying to @SimonZerafa @munin @andreasdotorg

        Thank God evil is incompetent?

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      8. Simon Zerafa‏ @SimonZerafa Mar 11
        Replying to @nhaehnle @munin @andreasdotorg

        It's isn't always and best not to rely on that happening in the future :-/

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      1. Petrus Theron‏ @PetrusTheron Mar 9
        Replying to @andreasdotorg @BrendanEich

        As 21yo eng. student I had no qualms about designing weapons. Since then I've turned down: impl. an invisible proxy to replace ads for non-HTTPS requests; build medical diagnosis software to sell cancer cure w/o scientific basis. Engineers are a last line of defense.

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      1. ツ RandomȺdversary‏ @RandomAdversary Mar 10
        Replying to @andreasdotorg

        I'm glad that you rejected the offer. The world needs more people like you!

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      1. Stefan Eissing‏ @icing Mar 10
        Replying to @andreasdotorg @hanno

        „If we do not build these concentration camps and gas chambers, someone else will.“ Ever wondered where the idea for hell and eternal damnation came from?

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