Oh and? The guy had done it before with no consequences. The fact that he was even at that party shows how well it works :/
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Replying to @jilliancyork @bladewing678
And surely that's going to be better by adding a rabid moral police? How do you prevent a CoC committee from becoming a proxy for people's personal vendettas? How do you prevent it from poisoning the discourse for fear of “offending” people?
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Replying to @FUZxxl @bladewing678
You should be asking: What can we do to make sure everyone feels safe? If you think the answer is something other than a CoC, then by all means propose it!
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Replying to @jilliancyork @bladewing678
If you are so afraid of the world that you get panic when entering a conference that doesn't have a dedicated moral police + CoC, perhaps you should seek councelling. Congress has always provided ways to deal with creeps by asking the Engel, no CoC police needed.
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CoCs are great clauses that signal to everyone- here are baseline ways to engage with people, and here’s who to go to when that’s broken. The problem here is why does a CoC bother you so much? Why does the idea of protections for marginalized ppl make you so damn uncomfortable?
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And to me, a CoC signalises “don't you dare disagree with us or we will immediately throw you out and ban you from all associated projects.” I want to discuss ideas freely, not be subject to a thought and morale police.
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Replying to @FUZxxl @carolinesinders and
The fact that you can't tell the difference between debate and abusive behaviour makes me sad.
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Replying to @andreasdotorg @carolinesinders and
I can tell the difference from my perspective. However, other people have different trigger levels and a CoC processes forces me to adjust all my arguments to be okay with even the most trigger happy people, which is not something I am interested in.
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Replying to @FUZxxl @bladewing678
Well, looking at common CoCs, I wonder what kind of ideas that might be.
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Replying to @andreasdotorg @bladewing678
Well, for example, there was this stellar example of “defending inclusiveness” from the Go CoC team:https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/golang-dev/pOvceAZwLHY …
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"I owe nobody respect" is really the money quote there. Quite telling.
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Replying to @andreasdotorg @bladewing678
How nice of you to find a quote that allows you to dismiss this whole thing.
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Replying to @FUZxxl @bladewing678
It pretty much captures the spirit of what's going on there. Same as Trump running on the non-PC, free speech ticket, and then forbidding "evidence-based" in science grant requests.
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