Codes of Conduct can never replace good intentions, mutual respect and human decency, but in the right hands, they can be an excellent tool for bullying and abuse.
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A code of conduct never changes bad actors, and they will always find ways to circumvent or even use them, for instance by creating Kangaroo courts. Erroneous conduct of well intentioned people can usually be resolved, but bad actors cannot.
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Let's see. Not having a code of conduct means you don't have a way to escalate a response to a bad actor up to the point of throwing them out.
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Usually not true; every stable social structure evolves mechanisms for that. Conversely CoCs allow power grabs by sociopathic parasites and ideologues, because they replace social standing and merit with a legalistic machinery that can put group resources against the group itself
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Now how is a CoC not a mechanism for that, just documented?
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Because the original mechanism existed as an implementation in the intentions, understanding and social abilities of people that had to constantly earn their right to employ it. The CoC is a completely new mechanism, a machine that can be used by any bad actor.
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Say, how exactly do I "earn the right" not to be raped? By social standing?
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Are you suggesting that social groups usually need a CoC to award its members the right not to be raped? You sound insane to me.
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Well, it was you who came up with "social standing" or "merits" in this debate. Just asking what you mean by this.
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This way you're removing the chance of learning personal responsibility and are limiting variety. Those who broke out of religious thinking know how it feels. A code of conduct is always a hindering concept to the evolution of natural beings. There is no way around understanding.
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We've taught people they can get away with rape in our social circles, because it will not be sanctioned. How can that be even remotely a good thing?
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I think it is clearly not true that any of my circles condone rape, and you know that. But some people have found out that they can subvert our social circles with unfounded accusations of rape (or various lesser crimes), because many will sanction based on the mere accusation.
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So you believe there is a conspiracy that is trying to subvert our social circle by unfounded rape accusations? Really?
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Generally I think an explicit CoC is fine for a highly diverse, loosely connected community with little or weak formal authority structure, few or weakly defined common goals
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