"how to deal with harassment" "no CoC stuff" Oh the cognitive dissonance!https://twitter.com/shiromarieke/status/1054402911776710657 …
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See my second tweet (thread).
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And btw, my biggest problem with CoC in general is that they are mostly either blank statements, or not realistic, or full of grey zones, or all those things at the same time. I don't want to remove CoC, I want to replace them with more solid text.
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But that's another topic. My question now is what do do if there's no CoC, or a bad CoC, or a CoC, and that something bad happened (anyway)?
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If something bad happened, and there were no rules in place, your best bet is to expose what happened, coordinating with the victims on what they are ok with sharing.
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I'm looking for solutions for the future :) To make things better and avoid fuckups. While I know quite a lot about CoC, I don't know much about building the structures that help ensure the CoC is not an empty shell.
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we are still fairly fresh with this in the
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BTW I am very interested in educating myself further about concerns in this area and possible approaches to remedy them. I will come to Berlin in mid a November for a week. maybe we can meet up at
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Happy to meet, but let's pick another place. My DMs are open, feel free to ping me with details (when you're there exactly, etc.)
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A CoC is always just a blank statement if you don't know how to deal with harassment. You can deal with it without a code, but you can't have a working code without knowing how to deal with it.
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you can't deal with it without a code if you don't agree on common values
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You are not making sense. Code or not has nothing to do with it if you have underlying problems like common values. Thinking a code will fix something that a code can't is one of the biggest problems with CoCs.
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of course it doesn't magically fix anything you have to put in work. But it forces you to think what your common values and rules are.
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you can think what your common values and rules are, in verbal or written form, without calling it a CoC or formatting it like a CoC. totally agree with you on having common values, but I believe it can be done under many forms. anyway, that was not my question.
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Yeah, and just to add: I don't think anybody said a code is bad and you should not have one. But you should be able to think about other options without getting stamped as 'evil'.
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