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Swede by birth, European by choice. Founder of Fryday, an international network. #EuropeanPatriot🇪🇺

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    1. Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @mfcompany

      Point is, we must be able to hold somebody responsible for hate speech, defamation etc.

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    2. Matthew Ferrara‏ @mfcompany 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @andersostlund

      A) you can do that now. And b) you cannot control speech, locally or globally.

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    3. Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @mfcompany

      A) I know but how efficient when there are fake accounts? B) Many countries have laws against hate speech. Germany well known example.

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    4. Matthew Ferrara‏ @mfcompany 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @andersostlund

      A) fake accounts are tiny compared to misinformation spread by real ones IMO and b) Germans can sue Germans now, no?

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    5. Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @mfcompany

      Obviously we disagree on what constitutes a media and what constitute open air and public space.

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    6. Matthew Ferrara‏ @mfcompany 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @andersostlund

      Yes. I think it might be that we come from different legal cultures

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    7. Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @mfcompany

      Probably so but I used to be a rock solid libertarian and free speech advocate until a few years ago when I lived through the war in Ukraine

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    8. Matthew Ferrara‏ @mfcompany 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @andersostlund

      I understand that. War can challenge our beliefs. As we witnessed after 9/11 here, for example.

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    9. Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @mfcompany

      Brexit, Trump, Ukraine, Russia has also convinced me of the importance of public broadcasting companies as a part of civil defence.

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    10. Matthew Ferrara‏ @mfcompany 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @andersostlund

      For me, I’d leave that up to PRIVATE broadcasting efforts. Public broadcasting works FOR tyrants as well as against them.

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      Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
      Replying to @mfcompany

      Here the public broadcasting is financed by license fees and they have a clear mission to find all angles etc. Like BBC.

      11:18 AM - 4 Jun 2017
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        2. Matthew Ferrara‏ @mfcompany 4 Jun 2017
          Replying to @andersostlund

          Yes, but you must note a “party line” - in the BBC it’s quite clear… no?

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        3. Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
          Replying to @mfcompany

          Sure. The BBC is "liberal". In Sweden most consider them to be left too. Most important for me is the non-alternative facts.

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        4. Matthew Ferrara‏ @mfcompany 4 Jun 2017
          Replying to @andersostlund

          I also desire facts. When “public broadcasters” include “editorial” I begin to cringe. Nobody offers facts only these days

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        5. Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
          Replying to @mfcompany

          True. The debate here about that very issue is fierce and has been going on forever and will continue to do so.

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        6. Matthew Ferrara‏ @mfcompany 4 Jun 2017
          Replying to @andersostlund

          Oh yes! That’s why a solid education in critical thinking, broadcast throughout the population, is the best “public” service :)

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        7. Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
          Replying to @mfcompany

          Absolutely. Education is the mother of everything. The lack of critical thinking can destroy most things.

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        8. Matthew Ferrara‏ @mfcompany 4 Jun 2017
          Replying to @andersostlund

          Yup. IMO we wouldn’t care about “fake” news (which existed in garbage newspapers for decades) if we spent EFFORT creating stronger minds :)

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        9. Anders Östlund‏ @andersostlund 4 Jun 2017
          Replying to @mfcompany

          With that effort there also would not be a market for garbage news. That is the positive view in libertarian thinking.

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