@andersostlund How avoided? Kerensky armed Red Guard, Stalin purged officer corps, wasted time indoctrinating, didn't listen to intelligence
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@andersostlund FYI Soviets let German air, tank & chem units train in secret & illegally in Russia. http://www.feldgrau.com/ger-sov.html
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@andersostlund Events, series of events, circumstances, external factors, strong personality, adherents. These words are familiar to you? -
@umbatumba Sure there are many circumstances and many factors but why not learn from history? Why repeat mistakes and celebrate them? -
@andersostlund For the RF it is part of history, it is a tribute respect to our grandfathers and grandmothers. -
@umbatumba Paying respect to people who were Stalin's slaves, died in masses due to incompetence, preserved tyranny. Great idea. -
@andersostlund Tell, what is more valuable?To be Hitler's slave or to continue to live today? The history is events which need to be worried -
@umbatumba That is not the point. The point is: Why celebrate all the stupidities? Why repeat them? Now Russia = NaziGermany. -
@andersostlund At fascism there is no such freedom of will which is in Russia today. Be not a delitant. -
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@andersostlund how could they have been avoided? -
@we_pf Read about the events and you shall understand. Not too complicated to find incompetence at the core of the disasters. -
@andersostlund interesting. First time I hear that. -
@we_pf Kerensky armed the red guards in 1917, Stalin drilled the Red Army in politics, not fighting before WWII, didn't listen to warnings. -
@andersostlund don't forget Spain; Stalin's force fought there, didn't they? -
@we_pf Sure but by 1941 the purge had taken place and fear and indoctrination dominated the Red Army.
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@andersostlund Both could probably have been avoided if Western powers had not been divided and indecisive in the periods leading up to them -
@DavidWMcDuff That too but I was mostly thinking about the domestic mistakes in Russia that made the events disastrous. -
@andersostlund The mistakes were the way the political system in Russia worked - could not have been avoided without Western intervention. -
@DavidWMcDuff Maybe you are right maybe there is a combination. I see many mistakes made in Russia though. -
@andersostlund Viewed from a Western perspective they are mistakes - but for Russia and Russians they are the norm, the status quo.
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