Whenever you hear "Ukraine divided country", "Russia's legitimate security concerns" you know you are dealing with a pro-Russian Putinist.
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@andersostlund Why do you guys keep bringing up Mol-Rib all the time. Yes, it was shameful. But, sadly, not singular. -
@we_pf You call it shameful but that is exactly what you argue for Ukraine. Why is it you do that? -
@andersostlund I argue against the war-mongers. But as far as Ukr. is concerned I lost :-( -
@we_pf Appeasement never works Werner. There are also such things as "right" and "wrong", they guide my thinking but as I see not yours. -
@andersostlund I really don't understand you!! Appeasement, btw, is another prop-laden word. How about "serious negotiations"? "Compromise"? -
@we_pf Are you kidding me? The Minsk talks in September was compromise and serious negotiations. No success. -
@andersostlund That's why I say, I am losing. Some people want the situation to escalate - and they currently get their way :-( -
@we_pf Putin has been escalating all the time and people like you have let him do so. Putin should have been stopped in Crimea.
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@andersostlund Who were the big players at the time? (hint: it wasn't Germany! And it wasn't Ukraine) -
@we_pf And just because somebody is big we shall just lay down and let them do what they please? Accept fascism in our faces? Not me. You? -
@andersostlund No, we should not. But maybe for a start we should try not to use propaganda-laden words like fascism. -
@we_pf Check academic definition of fascism and cross check with Putin's Russia. But okay, lets call it Putinism. Same thing, still wrong. -
@andersostlund OK, compare Putin to Stalin though! The same people who invented term "appeasement" worked closely with Stalin. -
@we_pf Exactly. And the results of appeasement in the 30s are well known. Despite this you are all for it again? I cannot understand why?
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