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'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 11, 2017Replying to @gwern"google maps is not an agent" and yet it does things like this http://bldgblog.com/2017/01/the-season-of-burning-trucks/…21
'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 11, 2017Replying to @allgebrah and @gwernmaybe I'm just rephrasing you here, but tool AI and a company using it combine into an agent AI (albeit with a longer feedback loop)21
'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 11, 2017Replying to @allgebrah and @gwernno such thing as a real-world boxed AI; if you make maps that people use, you can expect them to impact the territory11
'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 11, 2017Replying to @allgebrah and @gwernso it seems less a choice between tool and agent, and more one between crippled ill-understood agent and better-understood agent1
'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 12, 2017Replying to @allgebrah and @gwernreason I'm so excited about this: a *very* similar thing crops up in a philosophy of magic(k) I'm collecting material for1
'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 12, 2017Replying to @allgebrah and @gwernwhere science is descriptive, concerned with models, while magic is about how those models form the worldQuote Tweet'(·)@allgebrah·Oct 7, 2016Replying to @allgebrah and @sarahdoingthingbased on the descriptive/manipulative distinction; need a good magical counterpart to the experiment, maybe the REPL?11
'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 12, 2017Replying to @allgebrah and @gwernthe scientific method works in a space where your predictions don't affect the outcome. that breaks down in the 'softer' sciences1
'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 12, 2017Replying to @allgebrah and @gwernwhich is why it wasn't physics which came up with the tinkerbell effect or the thomas theorem2
'(·)@allgebrahReplying to @allgebrah and @gwerna "magical method" as opposed to the scientific method would embrace its effects. more general, but less elegant & harder to manage12:25 AM · Jan 12, 2017·Twitter Web Client1 Like
'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 12, 2017Replying to @allgebrah and @gwernand lo behold, it is the same division I see between tool AIs (maps embedded in processes) and agent AIs (processes)11
'(·)@allgebrah·Jan 12, 2017Replying to @allgebrah and @gwernIt's hard to talk about magic without sounding like a kook. Yet I think this is an interesting/fruitful way to go down1