one problem is that you can't replace all the crap at once. So the best you can do is 10% beauty 90% stuff that deals with crap
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Replying to @emareaf
Yes. There are various obvious approaches to dealing with this, none ideal. Urbit is one.
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Replying to @Meaningness
cynical me says it's gonna be another ivory tower like Smalltalk.
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Replying to @emareaf
Smalltalk had a lot of positive influence, even though no one used it; so that would be a good-ish outcome!
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Replying to @Meaningness @emareaf
The details of Urbit look almost entirely wrong, but it gets some big things right, and the sheer audacity is inspiring.
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Replying to @Meaningness @emareaf
Everyone knows everything is crap, but Yarvin is virtually the only one saying “so we have to throw it all out and start over.”
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Replying to @Meaningness @emareaf
nah wrong (loper-os, unison, pretty much all the forth processor people, to name the first three that come to mind)
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Replying to @allgebrah @emareaf
Huh. Not heard of those. Googled the first one, which seems to be one guy who is a fan of Symbolics CL…
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Replying to @Meaningness @emareaf
the case of loper-os is funny/sad depending on how you look at it, started as reimagining computing, now a total cynic
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as far as "not just a cloud castle" goes, I recommend http://unisonweb.org/ , they have the right ideas
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as in "resonated a lot with my own notes on how to do it" (though mine are a little crazier, think more art project)
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