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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Jun 2018
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      Here is what political opinions look like from the outside. Which ideology is the best one?pic.twitter.com/YVXsfN2Kj8

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    2. '(·)‏ @allgebrah 11 Jun 2018
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      could not resistpic.twitter.com/LVV3Ki8ZUI

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Jun 2018
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      Because not being religious is a religion? It probably is, for some people.

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    4. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI 11 Jun 2018
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      Are you saying that you have no ideas about how humans should try to relate to each other and form a culture or a society?

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    5. A. S.‏ @LoCtrl 11 Jun 2018
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      Are you saying that all ideas are ideologies? When I was 12, I had lots of ideas how people should relate to each other, but they were wholly inconsistent, mostly random, and not a major part of any extant ideology.

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Jun 2018
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      Me, too. The older I get the more it appears to be that there is no single set of values, rules and policies that is guaranteed to yield the best outcomes, and that adherence to individual political camps is inversely correlated with agency over one's understanding.

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    7. A. S.‏ @LoCtrl 11 Jun 2018
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      Most people would agree that some individuals are more rigid ideologues than others, which seems to be a dimension independent of having ideas about society. In that case, it is logically inconsistent to believe that everything is ideology.

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    8. A. S.‏ @LoCtrl 11 Jun 2018
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      The most rigid ideologues I encountered had very few *original* ideas about society — their ideas were wholly borrowed from others. An idea becomes a part of an ideology only when it reaches a certain point where it becomes transmitted as a “meme complex.”

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      '(·)‏ @allgebrah 11 Jun 2018
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      on the flipside, political thinkers often get into trouble even with their own people because logic and interestingness don't care about political borders

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        2. A. S.‏ @LoCtrl 11 Jun 2018
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          It’s not that an idea is being transmitted that makes it an ideology— It’s that it is being transmitted *whole,* with few modifications, sort of how a viral DNA retrotransposon is transmitted from parent to offspring, and when modifications do happen, they are often random.

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        3. '(·)‏ @allgebrah 11 Jun 2018
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          memeplexes with social error correction

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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Jun 2018
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          Ideology is not the same as political thinking. Usually it is the opposite: the hivemind expresses its thoughts in the host. If the host has their own thoughts that don't channel the telos of the hivemind, the host gets in trouble.

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        3. A. S.‏ @LoCtrl 11 Jun 2018
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          I think we can follow Napoleon and split political thinking into 1) realist (willing to make deals, etc) and 2) ideological (rigid, uncompromising).

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