Nothing is going to collapse in any meaningful way. The highest technology the Romans had was the arch. We have way more than that. It's too far down to be considered collapse. What will happen are islands of competence in a sea of dysfunction.
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Replying to @AMK2934 @Outsideness
I think slow decline is more likely than sudden implosion but to assert our technological advancement *precludes* it is asinine
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increasing complexity entails increasing fragility. when complex societies fall apart, people invariably fall back on simpler forms
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also neither of the examples I gave were collapses, they were periods of intense strife followed by top-down reorganization
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if you want collapse look to the disintegration of the mycenean palace economies or the crisis of the third century
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Replying to @alicemazzy @Outsideness
The past was defined by alternating periods of expansion and contraction, but all times suffering was present. The future is defined by alternating periods of expansion and contraction, with delusion-inducing levels of luxury present at all times.
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Replying to @AMK2934 @Outsideness
trade networks don't secure themselves, it requires hegemonic power and a highly specialized labor force capable of operating systematically
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once that flags, economic entities reorient themselves toward localism and it becomes a self-reinforcing cycle
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moreover the more one reads history the more one should tend to treat arguments along the lines of "but our time is different from all the rest" with intense disdain
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Replying to @alicemazzy @Outsideness
The point you missed, described as a picturepic.twitter.com/rG2fI80W0s
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no I got what you meant I just disagree
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