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    1. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
      Replying to @alicemazzy @CTZN5 @sonyaellenmann

      or if it's basically arbitrary insofar as it's required to short-circuit moral systems (most prominently christianity and descendent universal rights system) organized around killing being bad

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    2. Anton Troynikov‏ @atroyn Apr 2
      Replying to @alicemazzy @CTZN5 @sonyaellenmann

      not a lot of actual killing went on before war became mechanized, now you need to actually kill to wage war which means your soldiers have to actually shoot at the target and feel good about it

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
      Replying to @atroyn @CTZN5 @sonyaellenmann

      this is uh, debatable. it depends whether you include incidental death (disease, starvation) as part of the death toll of war

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
      Replying to @alicemazzy @atroyn and

      I guess in the context of how to get men to physically do killing this is valid. in general war has gotten maybe more violent but generally less deadly

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Anton Troynikov‏ @atroyn Apr 2
      Replying to @alicemazzy @CTZN5 @sonyaellenmann

      This seems right but I wonder if this is a function of who's doing the warring and with which weapons. I think Iraq/Iran was the last real one?

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    6. Anton Troynikov‏ @atroyn Apr 2
      Replying to @atroyn @alicemazzy and

      I have no numbers handy though about how bad that actually was.

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    7. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
      Replying to @atroyn @CTZN5 @sonyaellenmann

      (I should preface this is mostly speculative, not something I hold strongly [in fact I just thought of it now])

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    8. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
      Replying to @alicemazzy @atroyn and

      but if I was coming up with a heuristic I'd probably look at tech level over time (ie, third-world or first-world devastated into third-world conditions -> more deaths)

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
      Replying to @alicemazzy @atroyn and

      germany and russia both lost like 10-15% of pop in WWII, though it's hard to judge how much is infrastructural failure and how much the infamous barbarism of the eastern front

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    10. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
      Replying to @alicemazzy @atroyn and

      deadliest post-WWII was the second congo war I think. quick googling they probably lost 10% of their pop, mostly starvation and disease

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      Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
      Replying to @alicemazzy @atroyn and

      but this really isn't all that much compared to like, the thirty years war, which wiped out 20%+ of the holy roman empire

      2:25 PM - 2 Apr 2018
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        2. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
          Replying to @alicemazzy @atroyn and

          an lushan rebellion is reputed to have been the worst by percentage but there's controversy over whether it was more that the census machinery broke down, but easily many millions

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        3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Apr 2
          Replying to @alicemazzy @atroyn and

          more campaigns than mere wars but it's hard to think of anything rivaling the brutality of the mongol conquests or the muslim invasion of india

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