far too many for coincidence, it's just dozens of them hit this arbitrary point they decided was good enough and stopped progressing
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I can't talk too much shit because it's not like I bench a plate yet but this mindset is alien to me
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it's a really bougie/expensive gym so I assume their goal is "participate in upper-middle class fitness norms" rather than "get stronger"
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... so? At least they showed up in the first place, in spite of attitudes like yours.
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showing up counts for nothing, we must drive them before us and hear the lamentations of their women
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I never disrespect someone earnestly trying to better themselves, this is a distinct phenomenon from that imo
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are you just catching them warming up? many sets at one plate for warm-up might bias your observations
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unless they're warming up before going to do something else, no
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yea, as in 135 total
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There's a woeful lack of understanding that progressive overload is the way forward in general. Online fitness communities are a whole different world than gyms.
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The poverty bench is real. Can't even do the combine test with less than 225 though.. "everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights" as they say.
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I honestly think people kinda like round numbers. I haven’t noticed this at my gym, btw, but perhaps that’s because so many of the guys can’t do 135 so they use smaller increments.
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Adding plates is hard work, you know... stand up, remove, add, secure... I knew a guy who skipped warm-up because he did not like changing the plates.
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It is to some extent more convenient to change one's performance using simple tools than to consistently change the tools. It's less effective for an arbitrary performance standard. But it's not clear that the time loss is worth the performance difference.
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The time loss is all of 30 seconds to put an extra 5 lbs on though.
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Does the seconds v. pounds scale capture the full relevant difference here?
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Not seconds vs pounds. Putting on 5 more pounds is the next step. The difference is more one of 'staying exactly as you are' vs 'getting better over time'.
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There are few people who would be limited from improvement because they had access to no more than 135# on a barbel. That's either an incompetent person or someone who is very advanced to only be so limiting themselves.
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It's not a question of the specific amount but having constantly increasing intensity. Progressive overload closes the voluntary/involuntary force gap, and there's no other way to do that. If you don't use it you will *never* learn to use the entire muscle.
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There may be (depending on goals) cause to use other methods for *advanced* athletes who have already chased the neurological gains, but no adult male is repping 135 because they're advanced.
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