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    1. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1

      but that's the sort of thing I *would* expect an organization like nyt to be highly (relative to competitors) reliable on, and a completely separate concern from agenda/worldview issue

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    2. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1

      imo it would be entirely possible to build a right-wing media institution/ecosystem that is comparably reliable to nyt on things nyt is reliable on, but which resolves msmism dissonance

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    3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1

      the important thing is to have a coherent ethos that inspires participants in the endeavor, one that incentivizes reliability/integrity and also fulfillment of purpose

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    4. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1

      ethos becomes the basis from which one constructs a counternarrative which resolves dissonance without sacrificing grounding in reality

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    5. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1

      it's easy for libs to dismiss fox et al on factual grounds because fox is stupid. you know you succeeded when you replicate msmism in them

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    6. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1

      where all the factual ducks seem to be in order but the conclusions inspire an intangible sense of dread and wrongness, like their media does to the other half

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    7. Sukant Hajra‏ @shajra Mar 1
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      I thought that's what the National Review was supposed to be (though I don't read it enough to know for sure).

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    8. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1
      Replying to @shajra

      yep, not only was it supposed to be that, it was that for ~50 years or so. but not anymore

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    9. Sukant Hajra‏ @shajra Mar 1
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      When do you think it started to notably take a turn for the worse?

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    10. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1
      Replying to @shajra

      oh I think it still does mostly what it has always done, it's just that its ethos has become unappealing and its strategy unworkable (and arguably it never actually did much anyway)

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      Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1
      Replying to @alicemazzy @shajra

      NR modus was basically to operate as a center-right schelling point and blackball anyone who didn't keep within the bounds they set on "conservatism"

      1:42 PM - 1 Mar 2018
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        2. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1
          Replying to @alicemazzy @shajra

          this let them and their wives get invited to the nice liberal cocktail parties but wasn't especially effective for accomplishing policy goals

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        3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1
          Replying to @alicemazzy @shajra

          a lot of the discourse from people further right in leadup to trump primary victory was about breaking NR acceptability firewall, and in that basically succeeded

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        4. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Mar 1
          Replying to @alicemazzy @shajra

          but a free for all is not desirable and ostracizing crazies is generally good, the task imo would be to define a new schelling point and gatekeep it, but pick something that actually works

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        1. Sukant Hajra‏ @shajra Mar 1
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          Right, that's in line with the articles I've read. I never really sought it out, but occasionally I've followed links.

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