One of those things I believe but recognize can never be turned into a "how we live our lives" principle so whatever
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Replying to @sonyaellenmann
see I agree with the objection and think utilitarianism is stupid, this is the core disagreement rather than anything about hypothetical version of wireheading per se
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Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann
personally I see the desire to inscribe one's self into the universe as core to what it is to be human
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Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann
whether by reproduction, education, works, what have you. people who lack this drive may as well not exist
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Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann
so to me the willingness to give up all possibility for external influence is deeply repugnant
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Replying to @alicemazzy
this attitude is so interesting to me, I do not get it on an intuitive level
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Replying to @sonyaellenmann @alicemazzy
To me the question boils down to: Is your *purpose* for existing utterly selfish or does it relate to how you impact others? Do you have a duty to make some mark on the world?
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Replying to @CathyReisenwitz @alicemazzy
My answers are 1) there is no purpose in that sense and 2) no
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Replying to @sonyaellenmann @CathyReisenwitz
I don't see it in terms of duty at all, I think of it as a more profound selfishness
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creation influence power etc are acts of propagating/extending the self, which I feel an intense urge to do
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because I hold my self in very high esteem and believe there deserves to be more of it
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