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    1.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jan 13

      Is cannibalism wrong, immoral, or unethical if it doesn't involve people being *intentionally* killed?

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    2. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann

      everyone replying to this doesn't understand why it's traditionally considered "wrong" in the first place

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    3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
      Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

      consent or agency has nothing to do with it, it's a violation of purity norms

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    4.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jan 14
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      Yeah but purity norms don't develop for no reason

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    5. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann

      I could speculate on origins, but there's an important distinction between harm (rape, murder) and purity (cannibalism, incest) norms

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      Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
      Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

      it isn't important that there isn't a "victim" given mutual consent (people who argue about prion disease or inbred children miss the point)

      12:23 AM - 14 Jan 2018
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        2.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jan 14
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          elaborate one step more?

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        3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
          Replying to @sonyaellenmann

          I mean that because people are used to thinking of widely proscribed actions in terms of harm done, when it comes to purity violations, they...

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        4. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
          Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

          ...(if they are arguing said violations ought to be punished) try to construct the violation in terms of harm norms because it's how they think of transgression

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        5. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
          Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

          eg "close relation incest is wrong because it could produce a malformed child, the victim of the action!" what if they use birth control and if it fails abort? "there's still a chance!" etc

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        6. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
          Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

          when the right argument is, it's banned because it's so disgusting that it offends our sensibilities as a society

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        7. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
          Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

          anyway to segue to the "why tho" it's obvious avoiding cannibalism and incest carry a fitness benefit

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        8. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
          Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

          it's probably unlikely all these societies discovered inbreeding depression or prion disease and took steps to reduce them proactively

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        9. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
          Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

          especially since these taboos usually get imposed *very* early. I don't know of any cannibalistic societies that aren't pre-literate, and...

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        1. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 14
          Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

          it is simply that these acts defile those who participate in them

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        1. Trevor McKendrick‏Verified account @TrevMcKendrick Jan 14
          Replying to @alicemazzy @sonyaellenmann

          Interesting... what purpose do purity norms serve?

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