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    1. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      and what of the people who make twitter, wikipedia, and stackoverflow, though? what is *their* dependency on google products & services? ;)

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    2. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @CTZN5

      I think we're drawing different meanings from your word "dependent"

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    3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy @CTZN5

      I'm not denying they can exert leverage over the ecosystem I'm saying if they vanished tomorrow I'd be minorly inconvenienced at best

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    4. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy @CTZN5

      or, well, in such a vanishing scenario a lot of infrastructure would fail spectacularly but that isn't really the point

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    5. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy @CTZN5

      rather that I personally, directly depend very little on their services, and indirect dependencies are largely incidental

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    6. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy @CTZN5

      because most google services (mail, maps, calendar, cloud) are fungible, really it's just the advertising infrastructure that isn't

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    7. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      yep. problem is this is what runs almost the entire internet, lol

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    8. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @CTZN5

      sure but "we have to get a new mail provider" is a different problem than "oops the one ad market is gone"

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    9. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      right! that was pretty much my entire point, was it not

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    10. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @CTZN5

      perhaps I misunderstood, I took your meaning to be that people depend necessarily on the constellation of google services

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      Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 1 Sep 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy @CTZN5

      whereas I am arguing in most cases the dependence is merely incidental

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        2. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          yeah my intent was to explain why, bc of the ad market (google's real biz; the rest is all just chaff for antitrust investigators & laymen)…

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        3. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
          Replying to @CTZN5 @alicemazzy

          …that even people like you and me are wayyyy more dependent on google for the existence of our daily world, than you might think

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        4. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
          Replying to @CTZN5 @alicemazzy

          and that their willingness to censor things (see article at TPM) inadvertently affects even people like us, as it distorts the info market

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        5. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
          Replying to @CTZN5 @alicemazzy

          or, see also that day or so when @jordanbpeterson was locked out of all of his google services for "violating TOS" including his email

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        6. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
          Replying to @CTZN5 @alicemazzy @jordanbpeterson

          he angered the censorship gods on youtube, and the result was all his emails for a decade+ were gone, and they denied his appeal as well

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        7. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
          Replying to @CTZN5 @alicemazzy

          so the long tail of risk here is similar to, what are the odds i'm shot by a cop in mistake? low. but i have zero control over if it happens

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        8. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
          Replying to @CTZN5 @alicemazzy

          so the fact that cops are shooting people by mistake wayyy too often, is disturbing, and makes me wary of cops, even if the odds are "low"

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        9. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 1 Sep 2017
          Replying to @CTZN5 @alicemazzy

          Even I stash stuff in Drive, gmail. I won't DIE but it would be much like a house fire, where you lose a lot of shit, if i got locked out

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