Yeah when it became clear that software was hard prestigious work instead of clerical/rote data entry, men decided it was Men's Work.
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fields with a preponderance of women tend to be low-status and also tend to be viewed/described in feminized terms
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declaring as fact one set of causal arrows connecting these nodes is basically an ideological statement
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eg, a feminist take saying masculinizing a field is an act intended to suppress female membership
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vs a more gender roles-y argument that women gravitate toward fields coded feminine
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a lot of these arguments boil down to opposite sides agreeing on x and y but absolutely convinced x causes y or vice versa
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also gf raised the point that companies in the 80s were looking for lifers and women tended to exit the workforce after marriage
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"forced out" sounds better than lost to the competitive males desiring success in the field.
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Have y'all actually read any of the source material or are you intent on debating imagined hypotheticals? http://gender.stanford.edu/news/2011/researcher-reveals-how-%E2%80%9Ccomputer-geeks%E2%80%9D-replaced-%E2%80%9Ccomputergirls%E2%80%9D …
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Whenever reading narratives like these I get the distict feeling of being hoodwinked. I don't know enough about computing history to verify.
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Even if I did it still doesn't seem to explain current situation (which is the issue at hand, after all).
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You really really really need to listen to interviews with the "computer girls" who lived thru that period. It's no hoodwink.
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Causality is not shown through anecdote. Perhaps the narrative is true. Don't see strong relation to current situation, though.
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Keep reading. Alice is trying to construct an ahistorical narrative with the two graphs.
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Keep reading where?
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Women weren't pushed out. Their numbers stayed the same while huge numbers of men changed the balance.
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Got a citation for your claim?
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Do you realize your entire argument falls apart the moment you look at raw numbers instead of %? https://nintil.com/2017/08/07/why-so-few-women-in-cs-the-google-memo-is-right/amp/ …pic.twitter.com/02yB5lpEHu
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Women were not "pushed out", at least not anymore than men. Your sources are just a string of persuasive anecdotes.
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