india isn't a good example because it's all over the place, hasn't cohered on anything like "the han people" yet
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but imo diff is we are operating outside the frame (white or western as taste suits), arguing over merit of the frame itself
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whereas their frame is implicitly accepted as part of their consensus reality and arguments are about how best to fullfil it
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compare furor over like, confederate monuments (soon founding fathers) college building names whatever to cultural revolution
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their destruction of artifacts was far more rapid and zealous, govt support meant they could just do it rather than petition
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but it had nothing to do with like, disavowing china's historical imperialism or minority treatment or any of that
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that "chineseness" or what have you was in itself good was never in question, it was about what form it ought to take
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purely a question of whether reverence for historical was holding them back from imposing their will, the project of society
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