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    1. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 29 Jun 2017

      no matter how esoteric or incomprehensible our politics get, we'll never beat top quint income bracket tech workers pushing for unionization

      15 replies 34 retweets 136 likes
    2. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 29 Jun 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      theories: a) realize they're the bourgeoisie, believe the end of capitalism is inevitable, trying to signal their way out of the guillotine

      3 replies 4 retweets 28 likes
    3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 29 Jun 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      b) realize they're the bourgeoisie, understand unions are short-term beneficial to workers, just want even more money

      4 replies 1 retweet 28 likes
    4. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 29 Jun 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      c) realize they're the bourgeoisie, trying to signal downward for social cred like white kids bragging about visiting "rough" neighborhoods

      9 replies 1 retweet 27 likes
    5. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 29 Jun 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      d) crypto-primitivists trying to bring the tech industry to a halt and thus precipitate the downfall of industrial civilization

      4 replies 4 retweets 23 likes
      Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 29 Jun 2017

      e) despite making individually 3-6x median household income tech socialists have memed themselves into believing they are working class

      3:29 PM - 29 Jun 2017
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        2. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          I'd rather a self-aware and diligent aristocracy but don't like the odds of getting either quality out of the current crop

          4 replies 2 retweets 28 likes
        3. Alrecenk‏ @Alrecenk 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          As a top quint techy in AI I want basic income 'cause I feel kind of guilty about the jobs I'm destroying. So, I guess (a) is closest.

          2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @Alrecenk

          "keep the lower classes comfortable enough not to rise up and wreck everything" is an elite opinion with a strong pedigree

          1 reply 3 retweets 39 likes
        5. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy @Alrecenk

          I mean techies who think that they themselves should form unions because they are not paid enough money or something

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. meekaale‏ @meekaale 30 Jun 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy @Alrecenk

          What I've seen of "tech solidarity" is mostly about collective power to e.g. stop dark patterns; fund free software; protect net; etc

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        7. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 30 Jun 2017
          Replying to @meekaale @Alrecenk

          this is more the role of professional organizations such as those that exist for doctors or lawyers

          2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
        8. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 30 Jun 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy @meekaale @Alrecenk

          especially arguments about eg preventing adtech from being repurposed for government surveillance or border control

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        9. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 30 Jun 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy @meekaale @Alrecenk

          these sorts of orgs have very thorough codes of ethics and largely exist to protect the profession for its practitioners

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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        2. [𝚘𝚋𝚓𝚎𝚌𝚝 𝙾𝚋𝚓𝚎𝚌𝚝]‏ @lucaswiman 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          "the social group consisting of people who are employed for wages." Mostly fits other than our 0.1% equity.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. [𝚘𝚋𝚓𝚎𝚌𝚝 𝙾𝚋𝚓𝚎𝚌𝚝]‏ @lucaswiman 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @lucaswiman @alicemazzy

          I'm betting it comes from looking at physicians and lawyers, who've built pretty effective guilds that raised their wages significantly.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. hello‏ @bobpoekert 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @lucaswiman @alicemazzy

          physicians and lawyers get paid dirt compared to software engineers

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. hello‏ @bobpoekert 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @bobpoekert @lucaswiman @alicemazzy

          especially when you consider how much it costs to get over the barriers to entering the guild

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. [𝚘𝚋𝚓𝚎𝚌𝚝 𝙾𝚋𝚓𝚎𝚌𝚝]‏ @lucaswiman 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @bobpoekert @alicemazzy

          Maybe per hour, but overall a much lower salary. https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-software-engineer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,13_IM759_KO14,31.htm …https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-physician-salary-SRCH_IL.0,13_IM759_KO14,23.htm …

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. [𝚘𝚋𝚓𝚎𝚌𝚝 𝙾𝚋𝚓𝚎𝚌𝚝]‏ @lucaswiman 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @lucaswiman @bobpoekert @alicemazzy

          More reliable source: https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm …pic.twitter.com/F7DZFBVhY8

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. hello‏ @bobpoekert 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @lucaswiman

          pic.twitter.com/lV2u1XMfg8

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. hello‏ @bobpoekert 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @bobpoekert @lucaswiman @alicemazzy

          you also have to account for the cost of law and medical school + residency

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Autumnal Misha‏ @drethelin 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          F) like all Marxism in history it's actually just a move by near-elites to ally against the elites to move up the power ladder.

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        3. Autumnal Misha‏ @drethelin 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @drethelin @alicemazzy

          Working a good job a company with x income is not as attractive to many as the same job but with more power even if the company suffers.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Shieldfoss‏ @shieldfoss 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          Looks like you stopped thinking of alternatives. Here's the one I feel most likely: f) It's an elaborate signalling game like in a and b 1/

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Shieldfoss‏ @shieldfoss 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @shieldfoss @alicemazzy

          a and c, rather. But the signalling is to each other. They're signalling that they're the Liberal Coastal Elite by being as conspicuously 2/

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Shieldfoss‏ @shieldfoss 29 Jun 2017
          Replying to @shieldfoss @alicemazzy

          Not-Republican as possible, => as leftist as possible. 3/3

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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