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    1. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      imagine a hypothetical in which computer vision is perfected and the main challenge of self-driving cars is decisionmaking

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    2. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      reasonable to think they would outperform the worst drivers in all cases, and the best drivers in typical cases

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      failing in weird (ie, rare) edge cases that humans above a certain skill threshold could handle competently

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    4. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      from a utilitarian view this is strictly better as they are safer in aggregate even though they may doom the occasional outlier

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    5. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      now instead of drivers imagine a comparable system replacing juries

      3 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    6. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      only fantastical part of this is the system working well for the given definition of "well", inferior programs already used for bail/parole

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    7. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      woke types accuse these systems of amplifying human biases, hbd types say they reveal biases as truths. I don't think either is quite right

      2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
    8. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      assuming reasonably well-designed system, would likely handle vast majority of cases better than average and fail spectacularly on outliers

      5 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    9. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      this would strike most as a shocking abrogation of (the ideal of) justice, as well as put a more material fear in said outliers

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
      Replying to @alicemazzy

      but the way the question will be posed is, do the aggregate effects justify the collateral damage?

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      Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017

      and, given the track record, I expect most will answer in the affirmative

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        2. gattsuru‏ @gattsuru 27 May 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          Slightly more worrying: how many would answer in affirmative even if tradeoff clearly bad, if it reduces the monetary cost of the system?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 27 May 2017
          Replying to @gattsuru

          how bout: tradeoff bad *and* more expensive but funnels pork to contractors in district and creates appearance of decisive action

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. Lumifer‏ @lumiferrous 27 May 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy @gattsuru

          The interesting point here is control. PHB control over complex software is very limited. Lots of oppos for sabotage and/or subtle influence

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Priparchis‏ @priparchis 28 May 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          wouldn't this amplify system of negative selection, where at one point system would feel consequence of ousting outliers, and then will

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        3. Priparchis‏ @priparchis 28 May 2017
          Replying to @priparchis @alicemazzy

          design some kind of solution of averaging outlier exclusion to a minimum?

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        1. Graham‏ @grahamcodes 27 May 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          Great thread ty

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        2. Andrew Traviss‏ @andrewtraviss 27 May 2017
          Replying to @alicemazzy

          The role humans still need to play in things is to decide whether the technically correct outputs of these systems are moral to act upon.

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        3. Andrew Traviss‏ @andrewtraviss 27 May 2017
          Replying to @andrewtraviss @alicemazzy

          We come up with immoral but technically correct solutions to things and reject them all the time. This tech SHOULD just make step 1 faster.

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