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    Alice Maz‏ @alicemazzy 15 Jan 2017

    do you think in ancient societies where the heroic epic was the default form the first tragedians were seen as countersignalling edgelords

    12:25 AM - 15 Jan 2017
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      2. whitequark‏ @whitequark 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @alicemazzy @munin

        I don't think so, primarily because signalling is an idea arising from modern thought

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      3. igor, the blessed algorithm‏ @hirojin 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @whitequark @alicemazzy @munin

        somehow i read that as "signaling is an idea arising from modems"

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      2. ḏ̘͊ͅa̮ͩ̓͗̌s̬͐̑ͅh̟̤̭͍͍̔̿ͭ͒́‏ @da5ch0 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @munin @alicemazzy

        hrm... I like it. Reminds me of Diogenes trolling Plato and Alexander the Great, though even that is a lot later

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      4. ḏ̘͊ͅa̮ͩ̓͗̌s̬͐̑ͅh̟̤̭͍͍̔̿ͭ͒́‏ @da5ch0 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @munin @alicemazzy

        Socratic method is also affectionately known as the annoying toddler. "Everything's just more questions with you!"

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      1. Christopher Yocum‏ @cyocum 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @alicemazzy @pozorvlak

        In early Ireland, heroic epic is tragic. See Togail Bruidne Dá Derga for one instance of it.

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      1. Autumnal Misha‏ @drethelin 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @alicemazzy

        tragedies are just heroic epics with the signs flipped: larger than life figures with enormous defeats rather than triumphs.

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      2. Stephen Pimentel‏ @StephenPiment 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @alicemazzy

        Not exactly, as the prestige of the heroic epic remained high (even with the tragedians). But there is nonetheless a shift in the Axial Age.

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      2. milo bogardus‏ @bananaoomarang 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @alicemazzy

        I think we have lost far too much of this literature to see clearly how it evolved

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      3. milo bogardus‏ @bananaoomarang 15 Jan 2017
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        but it is likely edgelords played a roll

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      2. Jayarava‏ @Jayarava 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @alicemazzy

        Have we any reason to believe that the heroic epic was the default form? @_jordan_bates

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      3. Jasper, Ghost of Culture Wars Past‏ @jaspergregory 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @Jayarava @alicemazzy @_jordan_bates

        Beckwith suggests that the Heroic Myth was the default form for the Northern and Central Eurasia

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      4. Jayarava‏ @Jayarava 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @jaspergregory

        Never heard of Beckwith. But cf Michael Witzel http://jayarava.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/origins-of-worlds-mythologies.html … @alicemazzy @_jordan_bates

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      1. Simon‏ @simon_as_twit 15 Jan 2017
        Replying to @alicemazzy

        shit posters.

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