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tech jester, hex punk, tea witch. works at @github, surprisingly. opinions/selfies my own. she/her

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    mechanical turkey‏ @alicegoldfuss Nov 9

    mechanical turkey Retweeted Anil Dash  🥭

    This thread is giving me a lot of feels. I learned HTML/CSS so I could make simple fan sites and edit LiveJournal. It was incredibly fun. I was one of the only kids in my friends group doing it. By the time I reached college this wasn't "real programming."https://twitter.com/anildash/status/1060754945434157056 …

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    Anil Dash  🥭Verified account @anildash
    Because the tech industry fought like hell to erect barriers against platforms like MySpace & Neopets that were letting underrepresented folks actually *make* the web instead of just consuming it. https://twitter.com/JUNGLEPUSSY/status/1059878929752883201 …
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      2. mechanical turkey‏ @alicegoldfuss Nov 9

        Having HTML/CSS on my resume got me my first tech job, but after that it was treated at the same level as Microsoft Word. HTML/CSS was decoration, easy, a designer's job aka a woman's job.

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      3. mechanical turkey‏ @alicegoldfuss Nov 9

        Ironically, I find frontend work incredibly difficult now. I don't have the head for it. It's *hard*.

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      2. Cyd Harrell‏ @cydharrell Nov 9
        Replying to @alicegoldfuss

        I was in the leadership of SF Women on the Web 98-2000. we saw an absolute bloodbath of members' HTML jobs in the crash, largely women who (like everyone then) had self-taught; so many of those women left the industry (& of course the industry went all in on CS degrees next wave)

        1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
      3. Cyd Harrell‏ @cydharrell Nov 9
        Replying to @cydharrell @alicegoldfuss

        (same was true of QA jobs, which used to be an entry point for non-programmers with a path to product development; once it became automated-only, it stopped being that - & those people also got slammed in the crash)

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      2. Very Bad German‏ @dozykraut Nov 9
        Replying to @alicegoldfuss

        If I had a $ for every hour I spent correcting HTML/CSS flaws in "auto-generating" code cobbled together by "real programmers" ...

        2 replies 1 retweet 31 likes
      3. Jay !DOCTYPE HTML Gilmore‏ @JayGilmore Nov 9
        Replying to @dozykraut @aburone

        pic.twitter.com/KTgKzMouc4

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      2. muzzlepuffs‏ @muzzlepuffs Nov 9
        Replying to @alicegoldfuss

        I taught myself HTML when a couple of friends and I decided to build a website about boy bands. My friends bailed on the idea, but now I have a career.

        1 reply 1 retweet 19 likes
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      2. cmp‏ @0xCMP Nov 9
        Replying to @alicegoldfuss

        Any something I had was a dad who got me a domain and shared web hosting (which was still very expensive then). Not everyone 1) has $ for that 2) has parents which see value in that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Mary Baum‏ @marybaum Nov 9
        Replying to @0xCMP @alicegoldfuss

        I think I remember paying $20/month for one site, with now-laughable limits on storage and bandwidth. 2000, maybe?

        0 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
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      1. h4nn4rchy‏ @h4nn4rchist Nov 9
        Replying to @alicegoldfuss

        I feel this too. The first programming I ever tried was making HTML layouts for an online game at 13 because I wanted my page to look cool. Now I have a degree in computer science and am working on a masters in information security

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      1. Sean Kerr‏ @kerrsee Nov 9
        Replying to @alicegoldfuss

        css is way harder than javascript. This is strictly MHO....

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      1. Tom Vorel‏ @tomasvorel13 Nov 10
        Replying to @alicegoldfuss

        Who cares about 'real programming'. At the end of the day it's about the end product.

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      1. Vote November 6th‏ @iamdyanneo Nov 10
        Replying to @alicegoldfuss

        That's because white tech dude-bros.

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