WHITE WOMEN, GODDAMN IT!!!pic.twitter.com/NfiQYnj52x
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Can you explain to me which part came across as shaming? I asked a genuine question about why that person thought it was constructive. I clearly could have softened it with additional words.
Your entire second point was about blaming and shaming, when you say your first point was your real concern. Why even include #2 then?
I viewed them as independent concerns, but my initial comment was just “source?” bc curious/didn’t think data was out. I spent time trying/failing to find the source, then thought the comment was unnecessarily divisive bc no one demographic is likely to win it w/o the other...
If white women stopped voting with white supremacy, we would win elections.
It pains me to see people who are a vocal part of a group I support and identify with use the same kinds of tactics as the groups they rail against (e.g., empty rhetoric, negative generalizations, no sources for things that reinforce existing beliefs, refusing mature discussion).
This is not snark: do you have a citation for the idea that calling out a demographic for voting for racist politicians makes them more likely — rather than less — to do so in the future? Also, FWIW, there aren’t any generalizations going on here.
Framing things as “us vs them”, demonizing a group, etc., alienates people and ensures most of them will not even hear your argument. The psychology behind this is heavily studied, and there are a number of factually supported resources on that being ineffective/damaging advocacy
So far, your tactics in this discussion include: - back pedaling - tone policing - centering yourself as a victim - asking for sources while neglecting to provide your own
Also, it's "fellow white woman." I'm part of the demographic, too. And we need to get our shit together.
I try not to assume background (I’m part Russian and often mistaken for hapa or quapa) and would rather connect with people on bonds I’m more confident we share
Agreed, white women as a demographic have a greater responsibility to not vote against women’s interests...
I wish we would focus those conversations on why the other percentage of ALL demographics (bc no one demographic can win it alone) voted against our interests. People can be so committed to extremes; the enemy is anyone that doesn’t do what they want. It’s polarizing/alienating..
I’d love to see the whole pointing fingers at a demographic (ANY demographic, even one I despise) and assigning blame be replaced with “how can we reach these people and help them understand why this is the best choice and we have common goals”, because the latter brings results.
I get how my initial comments could be misconstrued; know that ‘defending white women’ type nonsense wasn’t my intent.
Yet you keep doing it. White people need to change their own minds. It’s not up to us POC to do it for you.
“You keep doing it” You don’t know me at all, but you keep judging me; where have I judged you? How do hostile comments and vague, generalized accusations bring anyone together or do anything to encourage people who don’t feel they can identify with blue voters to vote blue?
See, here's the defensiveness again. You need to get over being grouped with a demographic who acts in a way you don't like. The majority of people who look like us vote a certain way, and it's on you and I to accept and change that.
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