do people need to see screen shots from http://incel.me to understand what kind of violently misogynist and vile racist filth these people are?
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I see what you're saying. It is just a double edged sword. In striking down one group, you are giving the other group "evidence" that they are right (ex: see, they do hate us for being ugly)
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thats valid. do you think they a) actually believe their argument (like, are they kinda just evil anti-ableists?), and/or b) that they are rational enough that there is any line of argumentation that doesnt reinforce their "worldview"?
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I think that incels 100% believe what they say. That's why it is hard to combat them. They believe the entire world is against them, and keeping them from getting laid. They see this in individual women, the legal system, media, etc. It is like arguing with flat earthers.
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there were definitely posts i saw that read like classic anti-ableism... but they were often sandwhiched between terribly vile racism and violence, in addition to the central premise of misogyny.
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That's what makes it so confusing! Incels will be like "I am disabled", and in "support" another one will reply "just kys".
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they have a nihilist almost pseudo religious affiliation with suicide, from what i can tell--it has the potential to elevate them to literal sainthood.


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It is the ones who murder-suicide that are frequently seen as "saints". Lepine, Cho, and Rogers are examples.
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i had to share those two screen shots. the pepe's on the incel page are too useful for propaganda today. i will strive for as much nuance as i can tho. im no fan of conceptual flattening.
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