This thread is endemic of our industry imo. You should not be “going it alone” unless it is core to your business model. Even if you’re a trucking company, that doesn’t mean you should go build your own trucks.!?!? Only in SW do we think this is “OK".https://twitter.com/copyconstruct/status/1020880388464377856 …
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Replying to @timothysc
Choosing the right solution/vendor to buy into is a hard problem tho. And it's often a hard sell in an agile culture to do months of upfront research and planning before showing progress.
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Replying to @KarlKFI
Training alone is worth its weight in gold. You wouldn't scale a mountain without training, why do folks think this is rational in clustering.
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Replying to @timothysc
I usually see training purchased after a PoC has been done and a decision has been made. Do people do it for initial research? How do you convince management to pay for it when it may not be applicable?
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Replying to @KarlKFI
If you have purchased training after PoC... you're doing it wrong. WRT how, that's tradecraft
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Replying to @timothysc
Are there any 3rd parties offering “overview training” of competing solutions? The vendor trainings are necessarily biased, ofc. So you’d have to take multiple to judge fairly.
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Replying to @KarlKFI
I get your argument, but I haven't really seen fundamental training inherently biased, b/c they go through concepts vs. differentiations.
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Replying to @timothysc
Well, for example, RedHat trains on OpenShift, and Mesosphere trains on K8s-on-DC/OS, and Google trains on GKE. All of them could sell you on K8s in general, but none of them are gonna give you a fair and balanced overview/training of KaaS solutions.
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Replying to @KarlKFI
My point still holds regarding "fundamentals training".
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I think nearly all vendors could agree on most of core training and prevent so much redundant effort and confusion for students. All we need to do is build core training together using open source methods. @linuxfoundation doesnt do that and I cant fathom why
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Replying to @afewell @timothysc and
I agree with your frustrations but we have to be vendor neutral, we have CKA/CKAD certifications that are solid and are producing more intro courses/training for other
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Replying to @cra @timothysc and
An open source edu model would allow vendors to agree on a common core and then not have to invest resources to reinvent the wheel ($savings) and create a confusing & redundant educational environment for learners
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