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write at @fairmediawatch @thenation @alternet. Not above listicles. Liberal media entryist.

Joined August 2012
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    1. emptywheel ‏@emptywheel Jan 3

      @zeynep And WaPo more than any other outlet has to live by the terms it has adopted. It failed its own fake news criteria here.

      1 reply 13 retweets 75 likes
    2. Zeynep Tufekci ‏@zeynep Jan 3

      @emptywheel No it hasn't. Different mode of failure. So obviously so that I'm not sure there can be a serious discussion.

      4 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    3. Zeynep Tufekci ‏@zeynep Jan 3

      @emptywheel Reports story without sufficient techical understanding—then retracts. Can't tell that from "Pope endorses Trump" at click farm?

      14 replies 3 retweets 23 likes
    4. Zeynep Tufekci ‏@zeynep Jan 3

      @emptywheel PS. (WaPo's won fake news story was garbage—but that also doesn't make the fraudulent clicks/misinformation farms non-existent).

      2 replies 3 retweets 6 likes
    5. emptywheel ‏@emptywheel Jan 3

      @zeynep PPS: WaPo's failures are far more dangerous to democracy.

      5 replies 13 retweets 87 likes
    6. Zeynep Tufekci ‏@zeynep Jan 3

      @emptywheel I don't think you can quantify it like that. Both present real dangers; neither invalidates the others' dangers.

      2 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    7. emptywheel ‏@emptywheel Jan 3

      @zeynep Yes. You are very invested in dismissing any causal effect here.

      3 replies 3 retweets 36 likes
    8. emptywheel ‏@emptywheel Jan 3

      @zeynep Also, description of original WaPo hack story is inaccurate. It was a technical problem AND rush to publish anon leak w/o journalism

      2 replies 5 retweets 51 likes
    9. emptywheel ‏@emptywheel Jan 3

      @zeynep WaPo ran an anon leak w/o contacting utility.

      1 reply 4 retweets 31 likes
    10. Zeynep Tufekci ‏@zeynep Jan 3

      @emptywheel Dumb, opportunistic jumping at sensational story. Newsroom economics. Retracted. Still not "Hmm, how about Pope Endorses Trump".

      3 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
      Adam H. Johnson Verified account ‏@adamjohnsonNYC Jan 3

      @zeynep @emptywheel "Denver Guardian" retracted Clinton FBI agent story. Practice of retracting cant be used per se as evidence of real news

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        1. Zeynep Tufekci ‏@zeynep Jan 3

          @adamjohnsonNYC @emptywheel "Denver Guardian" is fake; if we can't figure that much out, what is the point of any reference to facts?

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        2. Adam H. Johnson ‏@adamjohnsonNYC Jan 3

          @zeynep @emptywheel this is beside my point. You said retraction was a staple of real news, I'm saying its also used by fake news.

          4 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
        3. Zeynep Tufekci ‏@zeynep Jan 3

          @adamjohnsonNYC @emptywheel You mean they deleted it after widespread attention? I also didn't say staple. But yeah, we can tell difference.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Adam H. Johnson ‏@adamjohnsonNYC Jan 3

          @zeynep @emptywheel who's "we"?

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        5. Zeynep Tufekci ‏@zeynep Jan 3

          @adamjohnsonNYC People interested in analysis and nuance across the spectrum of phenomenon, rather than conflating it all.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
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        1. Rohit Kumar ‏@zrahul2020 Jan 4

          @adamjohnsonNYC @mathewi @zeynep @emptywheel Can we all agree Mainstream Media publishing inaccurate news hinders fight against 'Fake News'

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        2. LabRat ‏@DubiBoat Jan 4

          @zrahul2020 @adamjohnsonNYC @mathewi @zeynep @emptywheel FAKE NEWS definition? like Pornography, "I know it when I see it"

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Denan Strong ‏@DenanStrong Jan 4

          @DubiBoat @zrahul2020 @adamjohnsonNYC @mathewi @zeynep @emptywheel Most important: What is the difference between FAKE NEWS and PROPAGANDA?

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        4. Rohit Kumar ‏@zrahul2020 Jan 4

          @DenanStrong @DubiBoat @adamjohnsonNYC @mathewi @zeynep @emptywheel Definition does not matter if orgs like WaPo does bad journalism

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