@pierre_rochard @jgarzik @adam3us @twobitidiot Plaintiffs would have to have a right to Bitcoin being at a certain price. Nobody does.
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@adam3us@pierre_rochard@jgarzik May be a better case, but you must defeat intervening cause: the double-spender/thief caused your loss. -
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@Jim_Harper reason massive theft would occur is because (hypothetically) Gavin/XT broke Bitcoin after repeated clear warnings to not do so. -
@adam3us Another causation challenge is that they didn't break it. Adopters did. A right to any quality of open source dev would end FOSS. -
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@Jim_Harper adopters (so far) adopted due to lobbying, marketing, media, podcasts, blogs, by those proposing the fork. not passive at all. -
@adam3us Right. But miners and node operators have free will. Their adoption of a different codebase attenuates/breaks the causal link. -
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@Jim_Harper a part of the issue is it is very complex & Gavin is abusing his position of trust - otherwise this would have been laughed out -
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@Jim_Harper maybe more like an expert acting to mislead public about safety, when all other experts are screaming no & *then* it goes wrong -
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@Jim_Harper maybe "free will" is diminished if no realistic way for them to evaluate the risks themselves, because its far too complicated - 2 more replies
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@adam3us@Jim_Harper@pierre_rochard@jgarzik maybe both Core & XT devs negligent by not enabling fork-robustness? eg lock spend to 1 branch -
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@gojomo@Jim_Harper@pierre_rochard@jgarzik feel free to suggest a way to avoid that. none is known. -
@adam3us@Jim_Harper@pierre_rochard@jgarzik allow any txn to ref prereq block (perhaps by inexhaustible 0-val pseudo-txout) -
@adam3us@Jim_Harper@pierre_rochard@jgarzik (hunch easier policy possible for conscious fork: req all txids xor'ed with arbitrary magic #)
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@adam3us@jim_harper@pierre_rochard@jgarzik investor unfamiliar with this risk has failed to perform due diligence. Comes with the coins. -
@kristovatlas@adam3us@Jim_Harper@pierre_rochard@jgarzik Caveat emptor only goes so far, Kristov. If I steal your car, is it your fault?
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