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    1. Chief Loki‏ @LokiJulianus Apr 26

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      "Our prognosis was wrong, but let's not go pointing fingers." https://twitter.com/kate____100/status/989546853116141568 …

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    2. Kate‏ @kate____100 Apr 26
      Replying to @LokiJulianus

      Their prognosis is entirely correct, he is dying of a progressive illness eroding his brain. No treatment options at all, none have ever been offered by anyone. No cure. Not sure how much clearer I can make that.

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    3. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Apr 26
      Replying to @kate____100 @LokiJulianus

      Do you understand that there are different options that all fall under the umbrella of palliative care? By your logic they might as well take a hammer to the child's head since all outcomes leading to death are identical

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    4. Kate‏ @kate____100 Apr 26
      Replying to @ad_captandum2 @LokiJulianus

      He is breathing, being fed and hydrated, being given anti-seizure medications, and pain relief is availabl if he needs it. This is what constitutes palliative care. What else can they offer?

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    5. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Apr 26
      Replying to @kate____100 @LokiJulianus

      Yes, withholding oxygen and hydration for hours is such a humane way of practicing palliative care.

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    6. Kate‏ @kate____100 Apr 26
      Replying to @ad_captandum2 @LokiJulianus

      Stopping feed before extubation is standard because if the child vomits it would cause distress, aspiration and infection. They did not know how long Alfie would breathe for. Since he breathed for longer than expected nutrition and hydration were restarted.

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      ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Apr 26
      Replying to @kate____100 @LokiJulianus

      And your assessment is that there is some objective scale of pain and dignity under which his current ordeal is objectively preferable to moving him to Italy. The fact that your entire timeline is devoted to defending the NHS is of course irrelevant to your impartiality here.

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        2. Kate‏ @kate____100 Apr 26
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @LokiJulianus

          If there was any benefit to Alfie I would support his move to Italy. But sadly there is not. He is getting palliative care here and hopefully they will get him home to spend precious time with him.

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        3. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Apr 26
          Replying to @kate____100 @LokiJulianus

          Yes because we've already established that you do not distinguish between modes of palliative care and do not believe that parents should have a say in deciding it in the event of a dispute with the NHS

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        4. Kate‏ @kate____100 Apr 26
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @LokiJulianus

          No I do not believe it is any parents right to put a child through travel and surgery with a number of associated risks and triggering more seizures for their own albeit well intentioned reasons of keeping Alfie alive for a little longer when he is dying.

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        5. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Apr 26
          Replying to @kate____100 @LokiJulianus

          I'm not sure on what basis you can conclude that the child would have suffered more being moved to Italy than he is suffering at present.

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        1. Kate‏ @kate____100 Apr 26
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @LokiJulianus

          I work for the NHS, and I have worked privately, some things in the NHS do annoy me, but this case is not one of them. The King case did. I supported his parents.

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