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    1. Irenist 🇻🇦 🇺🇸 🇮🇪‏ @1renist Jun 14

      Religious conservatives are rightly denouncing the separation of migrant parents from their children. This shouldn’t be a left or right issue. It should be noncontroversial for Congress and the President to fix this. Immediately.https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/us/trump-immigration-religion.html …

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    2. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Jun 15
      Replying to @1renist

      What solution do you support if Congress won't repeal the Flores Settlement agreement and the parents want to apply for asylum rather than going home?

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    3. Irenist 🇻🇦 🇺🇸 🇮🇪‏ @1renist Jun 15
      Replying to @ad_captandum2

      Great question! Here’s a quick answer—more later. No time to research this adequately yet, so take what follows with a heap of salt: Extension of Flores to accompanied minors seems to be based on a Ninth Circuit ruling. So maybe ignore it outside that circuit—and even within it?

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    4. Paddy Polycarbonate‏ @PaddyPolymer Jun 15
      Replying to @1renist @ad_captandum2

      There would have to be a Circuit split for the gov't to ignore 9th ruling. There isn't. You do need to do more research. The objective is to prevent the greater evil of encouraging parents to put their children at risk by making the dangerous journey to U.S. Separation is temp.

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      ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Jun 15
      Replying to @PaddyPolymer @1renist

      Yeah I don't see how the government can just ignore the ruling? This is the same problem the Obama admin ran into with their family detention centers and they ultimately decided to allow asylum seeking families into the country while their asylum claims were being processed

      6:57 AM - 15 Jun 2018
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        2. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Jun 15
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @PaddyPolymer @1renist

          But as Jeff Sessions says that incentivizes more people to show up at the border with kids so it just exacerbates the problem. As usual it's a problem created by bad border policy

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        3. Irenist 🇻🇦 🇺🇸 🇮🇪‏ @1renist Jun 15
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @PaddyPolymer

          Say they ignore the ruling. Then somebody has to sue to enforce it. Who’s going to?

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        4. Paddy Polycarbonate‏ @PaddyPolymer Jun 15
          Replying to @1renist @ad_captandum2

          ACLU, MALDEF, UnidosUS, Schumer, Pelosi, the Pope (kidding). Would not be smart for Trump. Constitutionally & statutorily the courts have virtually no oversight over immigration. They have usurped that power. Congress won't push back b/c Kochs, Soros etc. want open borders.

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        5. Irenist 🇻🇦 🇺🇸 🇮🇪‏ @1renist Jun 15
          Replying to @PaddyPolymer @ad_captandum2

          ACLU, etc, don’t want these separations. They’re not going to sue to enforce Flores here.

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        6. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Jun 15
          Replying to @1renist @PaddyPolymer

          Why wouldn't they? They don't want separation, they want the entire family allowed in and Flores is the mechanism to make that more likely

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        7. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Jun 15
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @1renist @PaddyPolymer

          You're assuming they want a good faith solution here when in reality they just want border policy to be as lax as possible

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        8. Irenist 🇻🇦 🇺🇸 🇮🇪‏ @1renist Jun 15
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @PaddyPolymer

          If they want to hand restrictionists the moral high ground with a suit that stupid, okay

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        9. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 Jun 15
          Replying to @1renist @PaddyPolymer

          The way this issue is framed politically, the restrictionists will never have the moral high ground

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